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UNSTUCK · Dec 14, 2022

If you look at the COD on both my parents death certs it doesn't just say one thing. In both cases it's, "this was the cause which was brought on by this, which was brought on by this". For my dad (2001), it does state heart attack, but then lists a few other things, and then says from a bacteria infection likely from a dentist visit.
I have no idea if that's normal or not. I've only ever seen these two death certs. If strokes and heart attacks were the COD of all these people, I would think medical examiners would also note these abnormal clots as well. Do they not examine blood vessels?

I'm still glad I didn't get the vaccine.

anderson750 · Dec 14, 2022

UNSTUCK said:
If you look at the COD on both my parents death certs it doesn't just say one thing. In both cases it's, "this was the cause which was brought on by this, which was brought on by this". For my dad (2001), it does state heart attack, but then lists a few other things, and then says from a bacteria infection likely from a dentist visit.
I have no idea if that's normal or not. I've only ever seen these two death certs. If strokes and heart attacks were the COD of all these people, I would think medical examiners would also note these abnormal clots as well. Do they not examine blood vessels?

I'm still glad I didn't get the vaccine.

I am not sure how it is in other states, but I believe that in Utah, an autopsy usually are not done if the death was not unattended or if the COD is determined at the time of death. My takeaway from this was that the COD was determined as a heart attach and many of these clots were discovered during embalming. Due to how political this whole thing was, I doubt that reports of this to Medical Examiners would have resulted in detailed investigations.

IIRC, when my mother died, her death certificate said she died of heart failure brought on by COPD.

TRD270 · Dec 14, 2022

FWIW no heart attack but ever since receiving the clot starter my forearms and quads are ALWAYS sore like I just finished working out. Can’t say with any positivity for sure it was the vaccine but sure has ironic timing.

UNSTUCK · Dec 14, 2022

TRD270 said:
FWIW no heart attack but ever since receiving the clot starter my forearms and quads are ALWAYS sore like I just finished working out. Can’t say with any positivity for sure it was the vaccine but sure has ironic timing.

Did you watch the video? At one point they show a guy doing some sort of heat imaging which shows the clots in different parts of his body. I’d look into it.

Tonkaman · Dec 26, 2022

Some of you probably remember my cousin has been living in Shanghai since 2019. Update from Shanghai:

About 4 weeks ago Nike told all of their expat employees that they are cutting ties with China (not sure what that means). So just like that hundreds of Nike employees are to make preparations to return to their home counties including my cousin.

My cousin said they could feel the tension of Covid sickness traveling around the country. This caused enough concern for them to pack a bag, get to the airport, and fly out of country over a week before originally scheduled.

Looking at the situation now there are tens of thousands of dead bodies in line to be cremated and hospitals all over the country that are completely overwhelmed.

Something sketchy is going on over there.

YouKnowWho · Dec 27, 2022

Tonkaman, a friend of mine was about to go off to Taiwan to visit his in laws. He was told that unless he's willing to get enlisted it's a bad idea. He was not very happy with the details he shared.

anderson750 · Dec 27, 2022

Could take this in a lot of directions when you are dealing with CCP.

Does the CCP require the citizens to get regular boosters? If you watched the video that @Herzog posted, you could speculate that they are getting a variation of the vaccine aimed at population control.

Tonkaman · Dec 27, 2022

anderson750 said:
Could take this in a lot of directions when you are dealing with CCP. Does the CCP require the citizens to get regular boosters? If you watched the video that @Herzog posted, you could speculate that they are getting a variation of the vaccine aimed at population control.

I totally agree. The CCP just relaxed its zero Covid policy and within days the country starts to get overwhelmed by Covid. Seems like a way for the CCP to swoop in with harsher control and just say “we told you so”.

UNSTUCK · Dec 28, 2022

Somebody in my family has been sick everyday since thanksgiving. We just seem to pass it back and forth. I ended up taking two of my kids to the instacare last week. They looked me over while there. Since I was the newest to be sick they wanted me to test for Covid. I asked them what they do now with Covid patients, and what happens if I test positive. What are the protocols. The lady looked at me and simply said, “we just treat it like a cold”. I asked her if she knew how many people’s lives were ruined by this cold. I then told her not to bother with the test. 😡

TRD270 · Dec 28, 2022

UNSTUCK said:
Somebody in my family has been sick everyday since thanksgiving. We just seem to pass it back and forth. I ended up taking two of my kids to the instacare last week. They looked me over while there. Since I was the newest to be sick they wanted me to test for Covid. I asked them what they do now with Covid patients, and what happens if I test positive. What are the protocols. The lady looked at me and simply said, “we just treat it like a cold”. I asked her if she knew how many people’s lives were ruined by this cold. I then told her not to bother with the test. 😡

And yet….

US to impose mandatory COVID-19 tests for travelers from China

The United States will impose mandatory COVID-19 tests on travelers from China, U.S. health officials said on Wednesday.

www.ksl.com

jeeper · Jan 4, 2023

I track my finances fairly well. My income is pretty heavily influenced by political situations. I just finished accounting for 2022.
Income was 14% lower than 2021 (down 23% from 2020). Household expenses (groceries, fuel, clothing, ect) went up 36% over 2021.

So, for me and my house.. we will vote not Biden.

Hickey · Jan 4, 2023

jeeper said:
I track my finances fairly well. My income is pretty heavily influenced by political situations. I just finished accounting for 2022.
Income was 14% lower than 2021 (down 23% from 2020). Household expenses (groceries, fuel, clothing, ect) went up 36% over 2021.

So, for me and my house.. we will vote not Biden.

Ah, so you’re racist… 😂

Tonkaman · Jan 4, 2023

jeeper said:
I track my finances fairly well. My income is pretty heavily influenced by political situations. I just finished accounting for 2022.
Income was 14% lower than 2021 (down 23% from 2020). Household expenses (groceries, fuel, clothing, ect) went up 36% over 2021.

So, for me and my house.. we will vote not Biden.

Wow that’s pretty powerful data. Crazy how much difference a couple years can make

Spork · Jan 4, 2023

Fuel prices have me really wondering, I've never seen diesel for $2 more than unleaded and we hit that last week. Went by Maverick today and it looks like unleaded jumped $0.20 overnight. I think fuel prices are going up until spring again.

anderson750 · Jan 4, 2023

I think fuel prices are going to go up to where they were a year ago. We are teaching the point that the Strategic Petroleum Reserve is at a very critical level. To take it any lower just for the political purpose of making fuel prices lower is playing with fire.

The question is…..will this administration cave to the pressure of the high oil and fuel prices? There is no amount of technology that can replace what oil is to our lives no matter how much the environmentalists say we could go green.

Herzog · Jan 4, 2023

Just wait for the carbon capture and credit system bullshit. All based on fake science and lies. If you have no moral code, you can make some crazy good investments right now.

Trate D · Jan 5, 2023

High fuel prices have nothing to do with this administration…… Says Karine Jean-Pierre.

But when they start to drop this administration has everything to do with lowering our prices. Says Karine Jean-Pierre.

Pike2350 · Jan 5, 2023

Trate D said:
High fuel prices have nothing to do with this administration…… Says Karine Jean-Pierre.

But when they start to drop this administration has everything to do with lowering our prices. Says Karine Jean-Pierre.

Not to take away from the current garbage going on...but this is not anything new. Every administration does this crap.

It's very annoying but I really don't believe that outside of allowing us to drill more at home, the .govt has much impact on fuel prices anymore. It's too global of a commodity....with few places to get enough. Add in a war(disagree or not) with one of the producers and you get what we have.

What I feel has happened is OPEC has learned what the global threshold is for oil...and will adjust output on thr new level.

Spork · Jan 5, 2023

I don't believe drilling for oil 10k miles away and hauling it over is any more green than just pulling it out of our own land...

nnnnnate · Jan 5, 2023

I paid $2.97 at the salt lake costco yesterday. I haven't seen it anywhere close to that so it kind of surprised me when I pulled up and saw it.

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