Land Rover Bench Build: Range Rover L322

Stephen

Who Dares Wins
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I've enjoyed my Armada and its been a fun and surprisingly capable vehicle. But my biggest complaint is that its... big! I frequently find myself missing my Trooper, which I think was the perfect size for backcountry exploring. So that has got me thinking about buying something more reasonably proportioned. And as all logical people would do, that has me looking at Range Rover L322's.

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I've always dug Rovers, but there is something particularly appealing to me about how the 3rd Generation Range Rover (L322) looks when its lifted a bit with some mildly aggressive tires under it. And yes, partially its appealing because its a bit of an odd ball (though it's still more mainstream than the Armada and Trooper ever were). Also, you can pick up relatively low mile examples for around $7000.

Obviously the downside is that its a Rover, so there's no getting around the basketcaseness that these things are. My research indicates that the 2006 - 2009 NA 4.4L are the best ones to get in the US (if we could get the TDV8, that's the one to have). The engine itself, if it's been well maintained is apparently solid. With a used vehicle, that's a roll of the dice I guess.

The other big issue is the air suspension. It frequently goes out, but if you're mechanically inclined its not hard or too expensive to fix. Or you can just replace it with struts and springs.

The transmission is a ZF unit, so super common and easy to work on and cheap to get parts for.

And finally are the electronics. It's "British", so it goes without saying that this is an area of many nickel and dime issues. Since the vehicles are ~20 years old at this point, there's going to be problems. BUT, there are well documented fixes and work arounds.

What would I do with it? Well, not much honestly. Mild 2" lift, Terrafirma black steelies with some AT's, skid plates, and a winch. Beyond that, the Rover 4wd system is supposedly amazing (as long as the electronics aren't toast) so no real need for lockers or anything like that.

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So, RME brain trust, am I insane for thinking about this? Does anyone have experience with late model Rovers or the L322 specifically? Should I just buy a Toyota? No, @bryson! Toyotas are boring.
 

Kevin B.

Not often wrong. Never quite right.
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Stinkwater
I came to the same conclusion about size. I didn't realize exactly how uncomfortable I was "wheeling" the Excursion until I wasn't. It was fine for random desert gallivanting and forest roads, wonderful even. But getting out by myself on a technical trail or tight canyon shelf road just made me nervous.

I know the LX isn't small by any standard. But good lord I'd forgotten what having an actual turn radius felt like.
 

The_Lobbster

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I honestly think these Rovers are cool, but everybody I've ever known that has had one, has had as you mentioned, the electrical issues. It seems if you can get those ironed out, that they're decently built otherwise.
 
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Hickey

Burn-barrel enthusiast
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I’ve always loved the look of those Rovers. I would never own one. I mean, is there any other 4x4 that’s so well known for being unreliable as a Rover?

I had a coworker that just loved his Rover. We were standing around it after work one day while he told me of all of its glory and reliability, and just how much he loved it. During the conversation, the water pump took a dump and dropped most of his coolant on the ground. He had to be towed.
 

johngottfredson

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Location
Alpine
If I’m ever rich I’ll own a new, under warranty Land Rover. Probably lease, actually. I don’t know of another vehicle that is as universally acknowledged to be so filled with problems. Even the fan boys on the forums say if you want reliable, obviously get a Land Cruiser. BUT, the awesomeness is totally worth it because British explorers were cool once.
 

J-mobzz

Well-Known Member
And how to do it
I’ve really been been considering picking up a cayenne, Q7, or Touareg as a DD. Anyone have any experience with this platform? They come in several engine configurations from v8, supercharged V6 and even TDI. Curious is one seems to be more reliable than another.
 

J-mobzz

Well-Known Member
I know the Touareg TDI is a maintenance nightmare, if that helps.
Very much. People seem to list them as the best thing to ever be put in them and claim insane mpg.

I think I might be mostly interested in the Q7 with the supercharged V6. It’s 6” longer than the other two variants making it more practical for loading with ski/camp equipment.
 

Bart

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Location
Arm Utah
We've owned 3 Audi's and they require religious scheduled maintenance. Our A4 wagon had the V6 and lost the timing belt at 61k, which took out both heads. The regular maintenance didn't call for that replacement until 100k, so it took us by surprise. Unfortunately for us the warranty expired at 60k and Audi wouldn't budge on that. Our last Audi was new Q3, and we had constant problems with that. I don't think I'd even own another Audi.
 

Gravy

Ant Anstead of Dirtbikes
Supporting Member
Very much. People seem to list them as the best thing to ever be put in them and claim insane mpg.

I think I might be mostly interested in the Q7 with the supercharged V6. It’s 6” longer than the other two variants making it more practical for loading with ski/camp equipment.

Wife has a supercharged Q7. Premium Plus. So mint. I'm afraid I've made a mistake because it's so much nicer than the VW version I'm now stuck buying used luxury. The whole thing is just really quiet inside and the sound system is excellent, glass is thicker and so so smooth.
It's been amazing. Almost no issues. Maybe I'm lucky? We're at maybe 130k miles? I'll likely buy another. Mine has been easy to work on. Seems like VAG stuff is well designed.
333hp 330lb/ft 5.5sec 0-60 = way too fast for her. 💪
23ish MPG town 25 hwy (if she kept her foot out of it I think it'd do better).
-The windshield was expensive to recalibrate (but I think all new cars with radar are).
- I had a PCV valve go and had to lift the supercharger to change it (since it was in the intake valley). When I lifted the injectors I messed up an injector oring and had to buy a new one.
- An electric auxiliary water pump for the rear heater core. (This was cake <45 minutes).
-coolant flush.
-I had a supercharger coolant diverter valve stick open (<30 minutes easy fix).
-And a water pump (paid to have it done since I had eye surgery the week it started leaking out the weep hole, but it looked easy enough).
-I did supercharger belt and serpentine at the same time and it was pretty easy.
It's annoying to do oil changes because the belly pan takes 14 fasteners to take off but if I had a vacuum changer it would save me a bunch of time.



130k miles so far.
It uses a tiny bit of oil between oil changes (about 0.5L -I'm told this is normal for the supercharger lubrication and the oil capacity is huge like 7.5 L).

The Q7 platform is shared with the Q5, Q6, Q3, VW Tuareg, Atlas (longer), Porsche Cayanne, Lamborghini Urus.
The 3.0 is in everything VW makes and is known to be very durable.
 

J-mobzz

Well-Known Member
Wife has a supercharged Q7. Premium Plus. So mint. I'm afraid I've made a mistake because it's so much nicer than the VW version I'm now stuck buying used luxury. The whole thing is just really quiet inside and the sound system is excellent, glass is thicker and so so smooth.
It's been amazing. Almost no issues. Maybe I'm lucky? We're at maybe 130k miles? I'll likely buy another. Mine has been easy to work on. Seems like VAG stuff is well designed.
333hp 330lb/ft 5.5sec 0-60 = way too fast for her. 💪
23ish MPG town 25 hwy (if she kept her foot out of it I think it'd do better).
-The windshield was expensive to recalibrate (but I think all new cars with radar are).
- I had a PCV valve go and had to lift the supercharger to change it (since it was in the intake valley). When I lifted the injectors I messed up an injector oring and had to buy a new one.
- An electric auxiliary water pump for the rear heater core. (This was cake <45 minutes).
-coolant flush.
-I had a supercharger coolant diverter valve stick open (<30 minutes easy fix).
-And a water pump (paid to have it done since I had eye surgery the week it started leaking out the weep hole, but it looked easy enough).
-I did supercharger belt and serpentine at the same time and it was pretty easy.
It's annoying to do oil changes because the belly pan takes 14 fasteners to take off but if I had a vacuum changer it would save me a bunch of time.



130k miles so far.
It uses a tiny bit of oil between oil changes (about 0.5L -I'm told this is normal for the supercharger lubrication and the oil capacity is huge like 7.5 L).

The Q7 platform is shared with the Q5, Q6, Q3, VW Tuareg, Atlas (longer), Porsche Cayanne, Lamborghini Urus.
The 3.0 is in everything VW makes and is known to be very durable.
All very good info thank you
 

The_Lobbster

Well-Known Member
I’ve really been been considering picking up a cayenne, Q7, or Touareg as a DD. Anyone have any experience with this platform? They come in several engine configurations from v8, supercharged V6 and even TDI. Curious is one seems to be more reliable than another.
I love TDI’s….but please do yourself a favor and don’t buy a TDI Touareg unless you hate your life.
 
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