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anderson750

I'm working on it Rose
Location
Price, Utah
Thanks you guys. I’d like to throw my leg over a Sherco more than ever seems like it ticks off all the boxes. How is parts availability? Not an issue I imagine 🤔
OEM you will need to source from a dealer since RMATV doesn’t have the Sherri line any longer. I know there are some poplar dealers out there that seem to carry a decent inventory of items. A little GTS should turn up some info on that.

RMATV last I checked had some aftermarket support for them.
 

OrangeSkidPlate

Active Member
Location
Pocatello
I've had good luck with Bonecutter off-road, Arizona moto center, hard Enduro outfitters and sisters moto. Part numbers are easy to find on Shercos spare parts page, then I'll bounce around to those four sites and throw the number in. I've only had to wait for an OEM piston, everything else was in stock and they mailed it off quick. Rmatv has enough general maintenance stuff that it's easy to keep it running and stay on top of the upkeep. There is a parts interchangeability page on thumpertalk in the Sherco section with some good alternatives too.
 

anderson750

I'm working on it Rose
Location
Price, Utah
I've had good luck with Bonecutter off-road, Arizona moto center, hard Enduro outfitters and sisters moto. Part numbers are easy to find on Shercos spare parts page, then I'll bounce around to those four sites and throw the number in. I've only had to wait for an OEM piston, everything else was in stock and they mailed it off quick. Rmatv has enough general maintenance stuff that it's easy to keep it running and stay on top of the upkeep. There is a parts interchangeability page on thumpertalk in the Sherco section with some good alternatives too.
Brakes and clutch are Brembro and are interchangeable with KTM. We took all the aftermarket parts off the bikes before they were sent back to Sherco. I know put the ARC levers on his KTM and I believe the chain guide will fit also. I think the hub is same and the KTM rear sprocket fits also.
 

Gravy

Ant Anstead of Dirtbikes
Supporting Member
I never could figure out how they make those Shercos and the old Gas Gas/ Reijus so darn heavy. I swear they're heavier than a wr450f. Like 275lbs wet. And the earlier Reiju we weighed was 286.

Mine is 247lbs =(249-2.2lbs of straps)
(And that's maybe 3-6lbs heavier than tubes because of bib mousses).
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Tonkaman

Well-Known Member
Location
West Jordan
I never could figure out how they make those Shercos and the old Gas Gas/ Reijus so darn heavy. I swear they're heavier than a wr450f. Like 275lbs wet. And the earlier Reiju we weighed was 286.

Mine is 247lbs =(249-2.2lbs of straps)
(And that's with maybe 3-6lbs extra with bib mousses)
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You made me go back and lookup how light my bike is. It weighed in at 229 full of gas when I brought it home.
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OrangeSkidPlate

Active Member
Location
Pocatello
From the factory the 250/300 Shercos are around 255 full of fuel on OEM everything. Mine is the 2020 so it doesn't have the 4 pounds of loss the 2021-2023s have so its probably around 260ish in OEM configuration. Biggest weight gains for me are the UHD tubes and the Enduro Engineering skid plate skinned with a piece of plastic for a linkage guard (4.5 lbs alone in the skid plate.), but there are small gains with the FMF turbinecore, random assortment of guards (BPD rads, disk guards, chain guard tab protector) Screenshot_20241025-120949.jpg
Crappy shot of the scale at 269 not quite a full tank, then topped off with fuel it was 272.

I broke it down one time on why I thought they weighed more, I came up with extra weight from the fan, coolant catch, radiators seemed bigger than a KTM brand, stock Michelins are quite heavy, came with a skid plate and more fuel capacity. Its not significant, but it is weight. I also don't think people realize how much weight they add to the average "enduro build", for instance full wrap handguards (cycras at least) are around 2 pounds. But they are built pretty stout, I ride a lot of 1st gear techy trails and practice a lot of trials stuff. Its held up amazing, never boiled once. You don't feel the weight when you ride, unless it contributes to the planted feeling, it is noticeable putting it on the stand and when you are trying to heave it back right side up once you've eaten it for the 10th time in 15 minutes.
 

Rot Box

Diesel and Dust
Supporting Member
Location
Smithfield Utah
Thanks again everyone. Weight is a big one for me. That KLX was a battleship.. not sure how much but it was a lot. I have a 2003 YZ250F and I like the weight of that bike a lot (not sure where it’s at on the scale either). Would like to keep it in that ballpark or am I dreaming?
 

Tonkaman

Well-Known Member
Location
West Jordan
Thanks again everyone. Weight is a big one for me. That KLX was a battleship.. not sure how much but it was a lot. I have a 2003 YZ250F and I like the weight of that bike a lot (not sure where it’s at on the scale either). Would like to keep it in that ballpark or am I dreaming?
I think a newer bike will feel every bit as light as that YZ just by all the other improvements that come with it.
 

OrangeSkidPlate

Active Member
Location
Pocatello
Its my buddies, its a 2018 YZ250X, I am back and forth on it. Its not a bad bike, I don't love the handling characteristics, feels too rigid to me, kind of twitchy, cable clutch is fine, Nissin brakes are good, love the zippy engine, gearing is meh, forks are darn near the same as the Sherco, the bike definitely lights the tire up instead of putting the power down but parts have been cheap for it. If it was the only bike I could own, it could do everything I need it to, its plenty capable, my buddy straight up hates it. Everyone claims the YZs are super light but its 252 pounds full of fuel with the bigger tank, handguards, UHD tubes and a full length skid plate (clearly lighter than the porker Sherco but probably average for a kitted trail bike). SSS and AOS forks are essentially the same thing, Yamaha having a partnership with KYB they get the newest and best parts so servicing the AOS off the Sherco and the SSS off the YZ, I can't tell the difference, I think the Yamaha has a slightly bigger dampening rod? SSS is what Yamaha calls the AOS. If you could find a regular YZ for cheap and had to revalve or spring the suspension anyways, I think thats a better way to go than to pay the premium for a YZX, the gap from 2-3 is pretty decent and annoying. There was some year differences in the SSS forks but I can't remember the timeframes, I think the Sherco, Betas, TMs run the older AOS internals. I see dudes pretty regularly running the steel frame YZs in some of the nastiest stuff around here, I get a kick out of it but I am too soft and want my e-start.....
 

Tonkaman

Well-Known Member
Location
West Jordan
Hey, I just spotted the YZ250… how do you like that one? I’m really thinking I’d like to build a YZ250 with WR gears and such. Worthwhile? It’s a little more budget friendly and I really like the Ya-mah-hahs. Heard good things about the SSS would probably have that tuned for my needs 🤔
People either love or hate the YZ. I think it’s a great platform with plenty of options but only if you really like how the YZ feels from the start. I’m not a fan of the YZx personality, but plenty of people do.
 

Rot Box

Diesel and Dust
Supporting Member
Location
Smithfield Utah
Thanks fellas appreciate the input. There’s one on my radar that needs the cases split. If the price is right I might jump on it. Would be a good time to swap gears and such. I’d love to have a little winter project.
 

Gravy

Ant Anstead of Dirtbikes
Supporting Member
@jeeper loves his YZ250x, he raced competitively for a couple seasons with his.
It's essentially the yz250 with the old wr426 gear set, 18" rear and a kickstand, a little more flywheel, maybe slightly different ignition mapping and port timing.

2005 went AL frame, 2006+ SSS forks are noticeably better than the old AOS forks, they got an update again in 2015 with the newer plastics, 2018 got newer fork internals again. The damper rod, free piston and midvalving is very much changed. 2023 got all new body, tank and seat. They look amazing.

I've had about a dozen YZ250s (including one with a trick titanium subframe) Some people like the older steel frame bikes- they say they're more compliant. I'm pretty sure I've got one in my collection right now I'd let go of.
I like to run a 7-9oz flywheel weight.
 

rholbrook

Well-Known Member
Location
Kaysville, Ut
I liked the one I had for my youngest. I had to get rid of the blue though. I like the old school yellow. Great bike. I was always contemplating putting a 300 kit on it and at one point ordered a electric starter for it. When the starter showed up, they said the stator was still about 5 or 6 months out. I said no thank you, I wanted to put a light on it. It sold fast when I put it up for sale.YZ250XA.jpegYZ250XB.jpeg
 

Gravy

Ant Anstead of Dirtbikes
Supporting Member
Did you see Cody Webb is off Sherco after 5 years and winning King of the Motors and Tennessee Knockout this year. Announced he's riding a YZ250x for Yamaha.


I think it's a bike downgrade without 50 more cc's, 6th gear or e-start but *maybe* they'll get competitive with the Euro bikes.

It sounds like he'll run e-start, hydraulic clutch and a fan.
 
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