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  1. drtsqrl

    Here we go again...

    I've been following this thread and the ones on Pirate, and I thought I should let everyone know what the Red Rock 4 Wheelers position on this is. While we are very interested and concerned in the whole situation, the club is unable (for a lot of reasons) to directly purchase the land, or for...
  2. drtsqrl

    Looking for accurate maps of Lower/Upper Helldorado trails

    Rick - I don't have any GPS data on either trail, but one of our club members might (at least Lower Helldorado, and Strike Ravine). Are you a Red Rock 4 Wheeler member? Weather you are or not, you should try to come to one of our meetings. We meet on the first Monday of every month, 7:00 PM at...
  3. drtsqrl

    Lower Helldorado re opened?

    I walked up to the Lower Heldorado trailhead this morning on my way to work. Both Lower Hell and Strike Ravine are still fenced and posted with "no trespassing" signs. Our land use officer called San Juan County, and was told they they have sent the land owner a certified letter telling them...
  4. drtsqrl

    How much snow is in Moab?

    Yeah, I'm currently VP of the club. There is a waiting list for Associate members (we have about 350 associates world-wide). You can get on the waiting list by calling Ber Knight at 435-259-7625... new members are added each September. Stop by and say hi if you get a chance. I've got a yellow...
  5. drtsqrl

    How much snow is in Moab?

    The weather looks good for Saturday, partly cloudy and a little warmer (40's). 20% chance of flurries Sat night and Sunday. I hoped you were kidding about the chains, but after seeing the guy using them a couple weeks ago, ya never know...
  6. drtsqrl

    How much snow is in Moab?

    Most of the snow is gone in town, but there is still 2-3 inches south of town in Spanish Valley. I haven't done any trails for a couple weeks, but I suspect that most of them are in pretty good shape. The south-facing slopes are pretty much snow free. We have club runs on Steel Bender and Kane...
  7. drtsqrl

    Lower Helldorado re opened?

    I haven't heard anything, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I am going to be working not far from there for the next couple of days, so I'll stop by if I can and see if it is still posted. The best thing would be to call the San Juan County Sheriff... I won't be able to till next week. Jeff
  8. drtsqrl

    Here we go again...

    I just finished looking at some maps at a club member's house this morning, and best I can tell, the parcels that are for sale include Upper Helldorado and a bunch of Strike Ravine, as well as numerous other old roads. I'm sure that San Juan County will try to claim at least some of the...
  9. drtsqrl

    Here we go again...

    Forgot to mention, the auction will be at 10:00 AM on May 14, 2004, at the Little America Hotel in Salt Lake.
  10. drtsqrl

    Here we go again...

    I just got a notice in the mail today from SITLA. Seems they want to auction off a bunch more land, and two of the parcels are in Pole Canyon south of Moab... yep, the same Pole Canyon where Lower Helldorado was recently sold. This time the parcels are a quarter-section (160 acres) and a...
  11. drtsqrl

    Trail Ratings

    Lots of good advice... most of it is right on the mark. The thing to remember about Moab is, almost all of the hardest obstacles have easier bypasses, and the trail is rated for the hardest obstacle. Also, the trails are always changing. Pritchett gets harder every year, and some trails get...
  12. drtsqrl

    Moab BLM comment period ends Dec 30th

    I know that this whole Moab BLM RMP thing has been discussed on this board on several occasions, and I also know that many of you have sent in your letters and e-mail comments. I’d like to personally thank everyone that has sent letters, but this post is for those of you that have not. I...
  13. drtsqrl

    Upper & Lower Helldorado.... Closed???

    Not much to do right now except wait. I went to the San Juan County Commissioners meeting this week, and it's in their hands now. Sounds like we have a pretty good chance at saving Strike Ravine, but unless we can find some solid evidence that Lower Helldorado has been used for 10 years, our...
  14. drtsqrl

    Upper & Lower Helldorado.... Closed???

    Thanks, Greg and Floppy. Be sure to let me know if you get ahold of Phil. I remember that SU&4WD article too, and if we can prove that it was once a road, that would certainly help. The first time I ever drove it was in 1998, and there had been only a few people over it at that time. The...
  15. drtsqrl

    Upper & Lower Helldorado.... Closed???

    Hi all - First, an introduction is in order. My name is Jeff Stevens, and I am the newsletter editor and VP for the Red Rock 4-Wheelers. I just found out about this forum last month, and I have been a lurker since then. I actually have provided quite a bit of the info in this thread (thanks Kurt...
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