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Excellent. Be sure to let us know asap what they say. Off-road exploring is such a precious topic to me because it means quality family time. My Grandparent's started taking me when I was 1. I have been going regularly ever since with them, my parents and now with my own kids. If they imprison...

I will send an email out and cc the others. Thanks for providing them!

I definitely slow down and move over if possible. Glad you are okay.

What a bunch of crap! Don't these people have anything better to do! They feel imprisoned and want the rest of us to feel the same. :mad: I wonder if the preformed letters (is that what they are called?) that we have done in the past have/could help? Everyone uses the same basic body of the...

Wow Stephen, I need you to come take some shots of my rig!

Yep, you have come to the right place! Welcome!

Oops, my bad. That is a bummer. It was a nice day too I though! Not sure we have an official count yet but it had to be 15-20 rigs. Nobody tried Constrictor either.

We actually might not have got to the trailhead till around 10. How many ended up showing in your group?

:rofl: I do have a bike pump. I am looking very seriously into the Co2 tanks. Not sure if we took the easy lines, but rattlesnake seemed easier than I remembered, even in the snow. I let my wife drive the entire trail. Actually she just wouldn't let me drive. Too bad we couldn't meet some of...

I drove my first old Toyota crawler back from Moab with 8 PSI once upon a time.:ugh: Wouldn't recommend it of course. Not sure what I was thinking.:confused:

Are you referring to the snakes?

:rofl: True. I am not saying stay out of "our" way. I just meant in general, there will be a lot of people out there and it would suck for anyone to break down. It would definitely suck more for the individual that does. I am all for meeting more of the Utah wheelers especially since I...

From WC: Rattlesnake: 5/10 though snow can make it more difficult. Rattlesnake is recommended for vehicles with 33" tires and a locker is helpful. Constrictor: Is recommended for vehicles with 35" tires and dual lockers. I will be there, but I will be coming with the 9am WC group. No...

As do I for sure. I just feel there is a bigger issue here.

So the next weekend we start the dig out process then? :rofl: I think I have some cement drill bits. That would be a lot of work.

Excellent man! New KSL article December 2nd, 2009 @ 3:09pm By Randall Jeppesen UTAH COUNTY -- A growing number of cavers are trying to find ways to persuade officials to keep the Nutty Putty caves open. Benjamin Allen has been in the Nutty Putty caves dozens of times and says he used...

I have been watching this from the beginning. I feel sad for the family. However, I also feel sad for all the future explorers. I am opposed to the closing of the entire cave. Of course if there's a body left, that section should be sealed. Sounds like that section should have been sealed...

NICE, WE GOT A LOCAL! Thanks man for the very specific info. We didn't have a chance to get there over the weekend. (It ended up being just a quick run) I am going to try to get over there next time for sure!

Yes, thank you! We may run that trail now.

That is definitely a different view that I ever had but it looks like it. Steelbender has a swimming hole? I will have to look into doing that trail. That is one I haven't done yet.