17 rem if you are doing any real long range. The HMR is fun little gun for sure though...the mach 2 is more a solution looking for a problem.Coreshot said:I prefer the HMR for the extended range.
troutbum said:I have a .204, flat through 200 and it drops 14" @ 500 yds
notajeep said:not to hijack an old thread...... but I am looking at getting a new gun, but am torn between 22-250, .243,and a .223. Is one any better "all pourpose" round than another?
notajeep said:I know that it is accurate and FAST..... but does it really have the impact of the larger rounds? It's like shooting a grain of rice..... Really fast rice.
Mike Schoby of Cabela's Guide said:What are its limitations?
Everything has trade offs and no one cartridge can do it all; the .17 HMR is no exception. The biggest disadvantage to this cartridge is that it is extremely susceptible to wind. Drift charts indicate that the 17-grain bullet, in a 10 mph cross wind, will drift around three inches at 100 yards and around 15 inches at 200 yards. In a 15-mph gust the bullet will drift 23 inches at 200 yards.
When compared to high velocity centerfire cartridges, this sounds like a lot. However, when compared to it's main competition, the .22WMR, it is a great improvement. At 200 yards the .17 HMR drifts 15 inches less than a .22WMR in a 10-mph cross wind. When speaking of trajectory the .17 MMR also blows the doors off the competition. At 200 yards, it drops 10 inches less than a .22WMR.
Cartridge Tech Specs
Bullet Weight: 17 grain Hornady V-Max Polymer Tip with Boat Tail
Bullet BC: .125
Bullet Velocity: 2550
100-Yard Velocity: 1800 fps
Muzzle Energy: 250 ft-lbs.
100-Yard Retained Energy: 130 ft-lbs.
Cartridge Overall Length: 1.365
SAMI said:why not look into the original rifle that this thread was about? the .17 HMR will take care of the small game you've listed. the guy that got me looking into this rifle claims his brother took a deer with his .17 HMR... but of course that's heresay... it's a .17 caliber bullet in a shell/casing abit larger than a .22 LR cartrige.
-Jason
James K said:..but I think I going to look into a .308 first :greg:
Just cuzMeat_ said:For cheapness to shoot or for more punch?
James K said:Just cuz
Greg said:I found a new Remington .243 with a synthetic stock for $430. http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976732178.htm Think that's a good deal? I haven't been involved with guns for a long time...