zukijames
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- Location
- not moab anymore
Saw on Utah jeep crew Facebook or some similar group saying he cracked a wheel wheeling up AF yesterday
American fork canyon?
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sixstringsteve
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- Location
- UT
everything is open up there, but it's super saturated with snow runoff and all the rain we've had recently. The second half of Forest Lake trail is completely covered in snow. Right where it comes out of the trees, before the short dirt hill to the lake, the trail is buried under 3' of snow. The trail is extremely wet and if people could wait a few weeks it'll really help the trail out.
- Location
- Stinkwater
So, that brings up a point. Not that I'm advocating going up there right now to trash around in the mud and dig some giant ruts in the trail, but why does the FS open those trails before they're ready? Do the FS employees who make that call have a different idea than we do about what constitutes trail damage, or is there another reason?
Troop92
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- Location
- Layton, UT
Agreed. If you want a mud fix, hit up Baccaus, west desert, or some other area. Leave the trails alone.
Badger
I am the Brute squad
- Location
- South Salt Lake
Because there is only one main gate in the canyon and since the lower area were everybody wants to camp this weekend is good and dry they will open the gate.
zukijames
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- Location
- not moab anymore
Driving on 3 feet of snow doesn't sound too damaging to the trails to me 
- Location
- Never Far From Nowhere
Driving on 3 feet of snow doesn't sound too damaging to the trails to me
You would be surprised.
Driving on 3 feet of snow doesn't sound too damaging to the trails to me
Lol!! I personally don't understand all the hostility towards the mud. However I grew up in Florida we all come from different walks of life and everyone like different things I guess. All my family down there gives me crap for getting into rock crawling lol. My uncle said, "What do you need to drive up rocks for?? You trying to catch spiders, or are you running from snakes"?? Lol. Crazy how different things are different places that you go. Just like if you go right next door to colorado weed is completely legal but here in utah you can go to prison for it if you have enough. Not to mention the thousand other laws/rules that are different there. Just crazy to think about sometimes lol.
sixstringsteve
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- Location
- UT
its the two miles of mud youre tearing up before ypu get to the snow.
In this case its not that we dont like mud its that driving in the mud is considered trail destruction in this area and can get the trails shut down in a hurry.
I see. That's understandable it sure would suck if they closed it back down! ! Not a lot of places to go around salt lake as it is.
- Location
- Stinkwater
Yes it is.
Ok, that too.
I hate mud. I hate cleaning up after wheeling in mud. I hate wrenching on my truck when I didn't clean up after the last time I wheeled in mud. I hate knowing that I'm leaving giant ruts that'll be there all summer and make the road crappy for farmers and ranchers who are trying to make a living. Mud is the devil.
I can understand the cleaning part. But I wouldn't ever be out tearing up someone's land. We have mudholes out there that are just like your trails here. A designated area that's made just for wheeling in. I wouldn't never go tear up someone's land or possibly harm their livelihood or there source of income. Idk I guess maybe it's the challenge just like you guys picking the perfect line to make it up the trail. Kinda the same concept in the mudhole. But like I said tomato, tommatto
sixstringsteve
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- Location
- UT
Yup, I have no issue Witg people wheeling in mud holes in FL or any other designated place. Mud can be super fun to drive in.
zukijames
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- Location
- not moab anymore
Ps my driving in snow comment was just me trying to be funny.
zukijames
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- Location
- not moab anymore
no front drive line.
went off the road in the mud to avoid the snow.
they were living in the suburban but had reached the 14 day camping limit so were trying to get to the midway side to camp some more
zukijames
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- Location
- not moab anymore
Kinda hard to tell but anything to the right of the snow is off the road
Troop92
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- Location
- Layton, UT
Maverick
old-school
- Location
- Anywhere, thanks to my geeky droid
Wow! (regarding the pic of the burb OFF the road)
Mud=ruts, ok, I kind of get that.
Snow??? Help me out here.
Mud=ruts, ok, I kind of get that.
Snow??? Help me out here.