Another toyota build....

[Panos]

I added a few things to the chassis and then started pulling everything off it to fully weld it. WOW!! there is a shit load of welding to be done.

 

[Panos]

finished all the welding and started to pick a color for the cage. what do you guys thing?
panels will be a flat black sprayed with a meta flake of the same color as the cage.

 

[sixstringsteve]

Looks sweet. Personally, I"m more of a fan of the silver than the gold, but that's just me.

 

[iamsparticus]

gold baby i have never seen a gold rig i think gold with black panels would look trick nick

 

[Panos]

 

[Panos]

finally, everything is welded and it is time for paint tomorrow. then the reassembly begins .

 

[sixstringsteve]

what color did you decide on? Or do we have to wait for pics?

 

[Panos]

you're just going to have to wait

 

[sixstringsteve]

Ok, I have a noob question about link suspensions.

1. Is this a panhard bar?
2. What is the purpose of this bar?
3. If the purpose is to keep the axle from moving left and right, then I don't understand it, because it seems that it makes the axle move left and right. It seems like a radius arm that pivots around the point where it attaches to the frame. Wouldn't it make the axle closer to the pass side when compressed, and closer to the driver when drooped?

I mean, I'm no genius (obviously), but pythagorean's theorem tells me that the hypotenuse is longer than either of the legs of a triangle.

I see that link acting as a radius arm, and the axle would move in a circle around the point attached to the frame. What am i missing? Is it just a long enough arm that the axle doesn't move significantly enough?

Sorry to pick on you nick, I've just never understood it.

 

[Chevycrew]

Yes, panhard, yes, locate axle side to side.

If properly setup, movement wont be significant.


Same design as 70's f150s, 05 and newer superdutys, plus a host of others.

 

[zukijames]

steve.. your drag link does the same think.. so like chevy crew said.. if set up right you wont notice it.. with out it .. even just sitting in the garage the rig will fall to one side or another.. also steering with out it doesnt work either .. your pitman arm moves but jsut pushes and pulls the rig side to side

 

[Panos]

you are fine steve, the pan hard is an essential part of a 3 link or radius style suspension system, or even a 4 link if not triangulated enough to keep the axle centered through out its cycle. It locates the axle side to side. my style of suspension in the front will not yield the best flex, however the radius type will be stable at all speeds and provide a solid suspension for what I want to do with this buggy. Now if it proves to not work the way I want it to I intend to make my own arms and 3 link the front. We will just have to see.
Also pythagorean never rock crawled haha sometimes you just have to get things out on the trail and see what happens. you can run all the numbers you want and read all the threads in the world. but it wont help until you get out there and try it for your self. kind of like what you did Steve.

 

[Panos]

oh and steve, I am not a proclaimed fabber by any means. I just love to make things and get creative. this is my first radius arm suspension I have ever done so I am not sure how it will even turn out. Now when it comes to wiring I can really hold my own! haha not to brag or anything.

 

[sixstringsteve]

I'm sure you did it right nick, you do your research before jumping into it. Thanks for the explanation. I guess I had never thought of my drag link doing the same thing.

 

[grandmaster]

What the hell Nick...how did i miss this thread forever ahhaha. Why haven't I been invited over to help you out with all your stuff?? I'm not too far away if you need some help with things. PM me if you want my number.

And what happened to your rig that was at Stephen Wade parked on all the cars?

 

[Panos]

I dont know steve, we will see. you better keep your truck for crawlfest!

I ended up parting it out, it was a sad day, but no one wanted to buy it as a whole. come down to the shop any time.

 

[cjncustoms]

Your drag link does not serve the same purpose as your panhard bar. Your drag link controls your steering and your panhard kelps tour axle in check from side to side. Your drag link is not solid mounted the the frame or the axle like a panhard bar is... However if you are using a panhard bar style suspension with your drag link steering you want those two to run on the same angle so they don't cause any binding when it cycles...

 

[sixstringsteve]

yeah, I know. I just meant that the drag link makes it move in a circle just like a panard. It doesn't help position the axle though like a panhard. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[sixstringsteve]

I dont know steve, we will see. you better keep your truck for crawlfest!

Dude, even if I still have it by then, I won't have a way to get it down to St. George.

 

[iamsparticus]

I dont know steve if i can get my friend to go his rig is a extremely powerful dodge disel so is all you need is a trailer im sure he would tow you