Are there any people here interested in off-road racing in Utah

Matt Stevens

Member
Location
Lehi, UT.
The way it works is there are only two designated areas in the west desert region that we can apply to do this right now. one is 5 mile and the other is out by Delle. the one by Delle will be easier to get races going soon because it has hosted races in the past. the one by 5 mile is a brand new venue and needs surveys and all so it will take about a year to get out there. the way I intend to keep everyone happy about the closure at 5 mile is to have a race one day for 4 wheel vehicles and the next day for bikes and quads. and yes these areas are small but its how we are going to get our foot in the door to get new land in Utah open for the public to use. we are also looking at other areas which include lake Powell area, delta and the sand dunes, and many others but all of this stuff takes time and lots of money so it is a 20 year plan not fly by night idea. some day I want to see my kids run in a point to point race from St. George to Salt lake. the reason I took all of this on is because 1. I love off-road racing and 2. because the land use acts were established 200 years ago giving the public a right to use public lands to gather and hold events on. over the years the government has pushed the public off these lands into small pockets of crappy ground and then limited the use there. we need to take our lands back people and the way we do that is to show up and be involved when these events do happen so we can show a huge interest in using our lands. If we could get 200 racers to an event I could then go to capital hill and have a leg to stand on to fight for our cause. So yes we will have a budget race class and a run what you brung class and after our Wednesday meeting I will give you updates on what those classes are and a Rule book will soon follow for all classes but Utah racing will be affordable to everyone I guarantee it.
 

cruiseroutfit

Cruizah!
Moderator
Vendor
Location
Sandy, Ut
The way it works is there are only two designated areas in the west desert region that we can apply to do this right now. one is 5 mile and the other is out by Delle. the one by Delle will be easier to get races going soon because it has hosted races in the past. the one by 5 mile is a brand new venue and needs surveys and all so it will take about a year to get out there. the way I intend to keep everyone happy about the closure at 5 mile is to have a race one day for 4 wheel vehicles and the next day for bikes and quads. and yes these areas are small but its how we are going to get our foot in the door to get new land in Utah open for the public to use. we are also looking at other areas which include lake Powell area, delta and the sand dunes, and many others but all of this stuff takes time and lots of money so it is a 20 year plan not fly by night idea. some day I want to see my kids run in a point to point race from St. George to Salt lake. the reason I took all of this on is because 1. I love off-road racing and 2. because the land use acts were established 200 years ago giving the public a right to use public lands to gather and hold events on. over the years the government has pushed the public off these lands into small pockets of crappy ground and then limited the use there. we need to take our lands back people and the way we do that is to show up and be involved when these events do happen so we can show a huge interest in using our lands. If we could get 200 racers to an event I could then go to capital hill and have a leg to stand on to fight for our cause. So yes we will have a budget race class and a run what you brung class and after our Wednesday meeting I will give you updates on what those classes are and a Rule book will soon follow for all classes but Utah racing will be affordable to everyone I guarantee it.

Now you really have me confused. :confused: The lands surrounding 5MP and Delle are not closed to OHV use, in fact quite the opposite they are very open and accessible. The reason they are not so open and accessible to racing is the exact facts we have already discussed, you will have to close them to hundreds of users to satisfy the desires of a smaller minority of users, aka what public land managers call 'user conflicts'. What 200 year old land use act are you referring too? There has never been a law, act, resolution or otherwise granting the implicit right to close public lands to the public in order to hold a private race? Sorry bud, it just doesn't exist. A private race hosted by a private for-profit organization is just that, a private entity. What has helped keep areas like 5MPRA open to OHV use is the year after year stewardship by groups like RME & UTMA, hosting cleanups, doing trail maintainance, etc. I'd conservatively estimate that the members of local 4x4 and OHV groups have volunteered 10,000 man-hours in the 5MPRA in the past decade, all towards keeping the area open, accessible and clean. Not trying to rain on your parade, but your approach to 'saving public land access' is not only skewed but honesty a bit insulting. I'm really not trying to rain on your parade, but I honestly don't feel like you've done any due diligence on researching all the aspects of your plans. Groups like RME sponsor trails in the 5MPRA, trails that under your plan would be closed to public use during your private races. I would have started my plans by contacting groups like RME, the UTMA, Moto-Utah, etc in a "can it be done while mitigating user conflicts" approach versus a "this is what were are going to do and this is why you will like it" approach. Head over to 5MPRA on a busy Saturday and spend a few hours chatting with users out there, see if they would be OK with a complete shutdown of the area and while your at it canvas them to see if they would be interested in attending the event. On some level I would like to think that with advance notice you could mitigate many of the issues, hard to say with out some real legwork in the planning stages.
 

neagtea

Well-Known Member
Supporting Member
Location
farmington
I used to race with Bore, as well as the other org's out there. I didn't see any major issues with the promoter just a lack of cars. There are a lot of venues to race out there and for someone from down south it makes sense to race closer to home IE Score, Mdr, Snore,Bitd and a few others. We used to race at Delle and Aragonite but that was chopped due to Eagles nesting or some other environmental issue, It may have been that the last night race there was so dusty in that valley the freeway had near 0 visibility. Good luck with the new venture It is always good to inject new blood and ideas in to the sport. I have a few friends that still race there and they will be happy they don't have to trailer to the vegas area.
Just my 2 pennies worth.
 

Matt Stevens

Member
Location
Lehi, UT.
the land act does not close land for private use, your way off base on what I am saying. the land use is to let people use land for gatherings but the BLM has gone against this act and believes they have total control of free Utah lands protected for public use under this bill. as for what I was saying about the land near Delle is it will stay open during the race which i believe is not a good Idea to have guys riding around with cars that are runing flat out at 130 mph but this is how the blm wants it. and i am sure if we plan an event for trucks cars bikes and quads most people that ride the area will want to sign up not shut it down.
 

slcpunk74

Original Saboteur
Location
WB,UT
Wow where have I been? I knew about the BORE threads on racedez but I didn't even think of looking here...
Im game for progression especially if we could stay south of that $500+ entry.
 
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