Bad Guy with Gun Stopped by Good guy with Gun.

[Jinx]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/17/san-antonio-movie-theater-shooting_n_2315139.html

funny how we never hear about this...

just sayin'



On Sunday, 2 days after the CT shooting, a man went to a restaurant in San Antonio to kill his X-girlfriend. After he shot her, most of the people in the restaurant fled next door to a theater. The gunman followed them and entered the theater so he could shoot more people. He started shooting and people in the theater started running and screaming. It's like the Aurora, CO theater story plus a restaurant! Now aren't you wondering why this isn't a lead story in the national media along with the school shooting? There was an off duty county deputy at the theater. SHE pulled out her gun and shot the man 4 times before he had a chance to kill anyone. So since this story makes the point that the best thing to stop a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun, the media is treating it like it never happened. Only the local media covered it. The city is giving her a medal next week. Just thought you'd like to know.

 

[sLcREX]

Damn media. I wonder if all the gun owners in the nation stopped watching the news outlets that are twisting things around, if ratings would suffer and they would get the hint and knock that shit off?

in other words, them selling lies is gonna cost them their audience

 

[TJDukit]

Too bad that even if it did make mainstream media they would play the "cop" card as a reason why she was one person who should be allowed to own a gun.

 

[Stephen]

Only the local media covered it.

You linked to the Huffington Post, a national news source (with a left of center persuasion), which picked up the story from the Associated Press, an international media outlet. Sounds like more than just the local media covered it and the "mainstream media" was on it.

And I think I've seen this same story from at least a dozen sources over the last month.

 

[Jinx]

Fox? CNN? NBC? :-\ Didn't think so...

I think you might be missing the point...

some of the other sources

San Antonio Local News
Huffington Post 12/17/12
San Antonio Local TV Account
Global Post

 

[Stephen]

I think you might be missing the point...

What is the point, then?

You said that we never hear about it and that it was only covered locally. It was covered internationally by the AP and this same story has been distributed all over the world and "heard" by millions undoubtedly. I think it was a headline story on the Drudge Report (linking to the HuffPost) the day it happened. What I'm gathering is that you (and millions of other people) like to gripe that the "mainstream media" isn't paying attention to situations like this. You're right! Congratulations. These companies are looking to sell advertising space to enrich themselves. Yes, even the evil socialist commie pigs at MSNBC only care about the almighty dollar. You know what sells? Sensation. Always, has. So if one guy gets blown away by a law abiding citizen before he starts blasting the other direction it gets the back page because it doesn’t sell as many ads as 20 dead kids and the hours of talking heads that allows for.
People watch/read these outlets because they are big, “trusted” and easy to access. If you don’t like them, you can always go elsewhere for your news. Its never been easier than now. Used to be you had the NYT or the Washington Post to support the “two sides” of the spectrum. Now there are literally millions of ways to get your news. From MSNBC to those nut jobs running Prison Plant to bloggers. We live in a wonderful/evil world where you can consume the media that you want, the way you want. Obviously you already know that, because you found this story even though it was ignored by the “mainstream media”.
I don’t mean to target you in particular, I’m just sick in general about people complaining about this. It’s the same kind of thing when someone bitches about some TV show for its content. Change the channel. Not that hard.

 

[Jinx]

What is the point, then?

you might want to give that that main spring a break, seems a little like it might be wound up a little tight.


So to restate:
I bring up the point that its "funny how we never hear about this..." referring to illustrated event in Texas.

You bring up how you heard this a dozen times. blah blah blah

I point out you might be missing the point.

You rant and kinda pick a fight,

I make light of your tight wound response and refer you to post #1 being "funny how we never hear about this..."

Just sayin'

 

[Kiel]

Ban stephen from RME?

 

[TJDukit]

Ban stephen from RME?

Yes lets do that.....wait ok lets not, I kinda like Stephen, he even sold me a freezer real cheap.

I get all my news off of the interwebs so every time I read a story on a website I know to be biased I find a better site that tells the story better or at least to be able to compare. Since it is so easy to access information and news these days pretty much nobody has the right to complain about availability of coverage. Most people are just too damned lazy to find the information for themselves. Like Stephen I'm not calling you out here just people in general.

My earlier post was only in regards to the fact that had the "Mainstream" news outlets covered this across the nation their spin would not have been one to make gun owners happy.

 

[Jinx]

Ban stephen from RME?

Naw, I think he is generally a pretty good guy just a little tightly wound today and out to prove something to someone who doesn't really care.

Maybe he spends more time on the Internet or watching tv than me, I received the information in a email from a old man and just thought it was funny that incidents where bad things that could have gone worse aren't handled the same and thought others on here would be interested in hearing it as well.

He is right sensationalism sells advertising, but being a dork about doesn't prove the point any faster.

 

[bryson]

It is sad where the emphasis is in the news these days.

He is right sensationalism sells advertising, but being a dork about doesn't prove the point any faster.

It's all he knows to do...

 

[ID Bronco]

Jinx, Thanks for posting it, I don't spend the majority of my life online so I appreciate it, I didn't see it anywhere. I go absolutely crazy when I see the crap that is covered with the slant its covered with. It's tough to sit down with my kids and try to explain everything they saw again in a more accurate light.

Stephen is right, I guess you can't have your own opinion.

 

[Jinx]

Ok, new rule in this thread. No more posts saying Stephan is right. (we all have to live around him after all)

 

[larrybenny]

I went to a movie theater last week end and saw a sign at the ticket counter that said "no firearms". In light of recent shootings in Co. and Conn. and also in the news was that a armed man robbed a movie theater in sugar house. What do you guy's with a permit do? abide with the theaters policy or carry anyway? I would rather get in legal trouble than risk my loved ones lives.

 

[bryson]

I would rather get in legal trouble than risk my loved ones lives.

 

[Hickey]

I went to a movie theater last week end and saw a sign at the ticket counter that said "no firearms". In light of recent shootings in Co. and Conn. and also in the news was that a armed man robbed a movie theater in sugar house. What do you guy's with a permit do? abide with the theaters policy or carry anyway? I would rather get in legal trouble than risk my loved ones lives.

If you have a CFP permit in Utah and you carry your firearm into this theater, you would be violating the theater's policy. If you we're caught, they could ask you to leave. If you refused, you may be charged with trespassing. It's only a trespassing issue at that point, don't make a scene, just leave and spend your money elsewhere. You haven't violated any state laws.

 

[Jinx]

speaking from an outside observer perspective, (is that disconnected enough?)

Most places who have "no firearm" sign and/or policy, have them for the same reason Home Owners Associations have stupid rules. So that when there is a problem they can enforce the rule.

As a example from HOA, to keep cars from being broke down on the street in front of a house, they will have a rule that a car can not be park in the same place for more than 72 hours. Is it ever really enforced? No, unless there is a problem with someone parking a junker for a long period of time then they can get it towed because of said rule.

So moving to Movie Theater example; if the theater has some guy flashing a gun at everybody who walks by with said policy in place they can ask them to leave and if he refuses it is easier to involve police, have a trespassing citation issued, and have the crazy person removed...

If there isn't a problem there isn't a reason to enforce the policy.
(Translation: If you aren't being a Jack a$$ with your gun and no one knows you have it, there shouldn't be a reason to enforce the policy)

 

[Kiel]

I don't buy my tickets at the ticket window anyway

 

[sixstringsteve]

When I see "no firearms allowed" signs I take my business elsewhere.

 

[Herzog]

If you have a CFP permit in Utah and you carry your firearm into this theater, you would be violating the theater's policy. If you we're caught, they could ask you to leave. If you refused, you may be charged with trespassing. It's only a trespassing issue at that point, don't make a scene, just leave and spend your money elsewhere. You haven't violated any state laws.

This is the correct answer.

Concealed is concealed for a reason.