Brake ?

[greenjeep]

Ok, so my brakes suck!!

Here my setup: front Waggy Dana 44 discs, rear TJ 44 drums, Chevy truck MC and booster; both axles are 5 on 5.5, wheels are 15s.

If I'm going downhill in 4-lo I can't stop if I'm in gear, so my plan is to upgrade my rear drums. I've thought of 2 choices:

- Upgrade the drums with some Ford (same bolt pattern) drums and all that goes with it.

or

- Disc brake conversion

I don't have an E-brake, so that's not a consideration.

Which is more feasable, useful, and can be done effectively but reasonable priced, think junk yard parts.

Thanks, stopping is GOOD :greg:

 

[Shawn]

Disc's. Make sure you upgarde the MC to a 4 wheel disc corvette MC.

 

[Badger]

were did you get all the parts you have now .if you got them out of a junkyard who is to say they were good in the first place.

when you replaced the booster and MC did you check to see if your push rod had enough movement to fully compress the piston in the MC.did you change the pushrod.ther are way to many questions to keep asking so start with those

 

[greenjeep]

were did you get all the parts you have now .if you got them out of a junkyard who is to say they were good in the first place.

when you replaced the booster and MC did you check to see if your push rod had enough movement to fully compress the piston in the MC.did you change the pushrod.ther are way to many questions to keep asking so start with those

I just replaced the MC 3 mnths ago, and would like to avoid having to replace it again.

How do I check the movement of the pushrod? All the brake parts came with the axles, and seemed to be in good shape

So if I do discs whats the easiest way to make the conersion, can I use the same stuff that's on the front and just adapt it to the rear?

 

[Badger]

well in order to find out if your pushrod has enough movement you wil have to remove the MC .well atleast onbolt it and measure the distane into the piston from the base of the MC.then you will have to figure out how much travel the MC's piston has to it .then you will have to measure the amount of travel the pushrod itself hasfromthe base of the booster and see if it matches the amount the piston needs.

i can almost guaranty you don't have enough travel and you aren't pushing the piston all the way in.

when was the last time you adjusted the rear drums as well?have you tried bleeding the brakes? i mean there are a lot of opion to try before dumping more money into something you have no clue about.

 

[bobdog]

If both the booster and the MC came from a chevy truck then they will match and there is no need to go to all that trouble to check it. It seems like at least your front brakes should be good enough to stop your Jeep but maybe your gear ratio (what is your final in low low?) is too low and torque to much for even good brakes. How do you stop on the highway?
For rear discs what I used was Ford F 150 rotors I turned to fit on my shaft flanges, Chevy front calipers and pads (same as your Waggy fronts), and weld on brackets from AA manufacturing that I modified to bolt on as well as weld on. Master cyl is 78 corvette with power brakes.

 

[greenjeep]

well in order to find out if your pushrod has enough movement you wil have to remove the MC .well atleast onbolt it and measure the distane into the piston from the base of the MC.then you will have to figure out how much travel the MC's piston has to it .then you will have to measure the amount of travel the pushrod itself hasfromthe base of the booster and see if it matches the amount the piston needs.

i can almost guaranty you don't have enough travel and you aren't pushing the piston all the way in.

when was the last time you adjusted the rear drums as well?have you tried bleeding the brakes? i mean there are a lot of opion to try before dumping more money into something you have no clue about.

If I'm not getting full motion out of the pushrod, how would I remedy that? The brakes were bled 3 months ago, when I put in the new MC.

 

[greenjeep]

If both the booster and the MC came from a chevy truck then they will match and there is no need to go to all that trouble to check it. It seems like at least your front brakes should be good enough to stop your Jeep but maybe your gear ratio (what is your final in low low?) is too low and torque to much for even good brakes. How do you stop on the highway?
For rear discs what I used was Ford F 150 rotors I turned to fit on my shaft flanges, Chevy front calipers and pads (same as your Waggy fronts), and weld on brackets from AA manufacturing that I modified to bolt on as well as weld on. Master cyl is 78 corvette with power brakes.

I knida figured if it was Chevy to Chevy than it should be fine, thanks. I have a T400, D300 and 4.56s, so my final is like 30:1 or so. I can stop fine in high, it's just when in low I have a hard time. I really want a 4to1, but figure if I have a hard time stopping now, I better fix that first.

The disc info helps a lot thanks!