Center of gravity?

zukijames

Well-Known Member
Location
not moab anymore
I'm afraid mine is getting to high!

Here are some measurements starting at front of the rig going back

Top of motor: 49.5"

Top bolts on bell housing: 38"

Belly/frame: 21.5"

Center of rear output flange: 30"

Highest part of cage 73"

Wheel base 112/114 not sure yet

Tire size 40" goodyears


These are measurements from the ground at ride height..

Is it to high should I part it out?

My rear upper links mount really high so I'm hoping my over thinking the geometry makes up for the tall center of gravity



I know this isn't enough info to tell for sure but you get the idea..

I'm thinking of throwing In the towel or just get it done and wheel it and stop worrying so much


Here's what she looks like
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jeep-N-montero

Formerly black_ZJ
Location
Bountiful
For some reason I was under the impression that it is more of a matter of max height vs width and height in relation to the position of the body between the axles. But I could be off my rocker on this one. Isn't there a diagram somewhere that draws a line from the front tires to the rear uppermost point and from rear to the front and then gives you some ratio once you punch in the weight? Hope I'm not confusing you or myself.
 

STAG

Well-Known Member
I would say you'd be fine. You definitely have the wheelbase for it, but maybe if you got some rims with a little less backspacing to kick out the width a little bit it might ease your mind? But I'd say your too far along to part it out now, you'd kick yourself if you never wheeled it with the new setup!
 

zukijames

Well-Known Member
Location
not moab anymore
That's true.. The axles are pretty wide I think 63.5 the axle in front shown is a 44 that I won't be using..

My old axle was only 58 wide with wheel spacers and was very stable but I had alot
Less weight up high
 

zukijames

Well-Known Member
Location
not moab anymore
For some reason I was under the impression that it is more of a matter of max height vs width and height in relation to the position of the body between the axles. But I could be off my rocker on this one. Isn't there a diagram somewhere that draws a line from the front tires to the rear uppermost point and from rear to the front and then gives you some ratio once you punch in the weight? Hope I'm not confusing you or myself.

I think your talking about the roll axis.. And mine will be good because I have so much separation between upper and lower
Links and my links are so flat.

Max height and width are big factors but even if you had a low rider and put 1000 lbs up high it would be un stable



What are some of you'd guys specs?

Total height?

Weight?

Track width (outside of tire to outside of tire)?

Height of motor?

Height of cases?

Wheel base?

Belly/ frame height?

How do you like it what would you change?


Hopefully this thread is a hit and can be a good resource for people building buggys or modifying there rigs
 

Bart

Registered User
Location
Arm Utah
Sounds like you're going through a pretty common phase of a build where you're second guessing a lot of decisions. This is point where some will get discouraged and either delay or scrap their project. Stick with your plan and finish. It will be much easier to finish, test, evaluate, and modify, than go in a whole new direction now. It looks good, keep going.
 

benjy

Rarely wrenches
Supporting Member
Location
Moab
Sorry to hijack... but,

For some reason I was under the impression that it is more of a matter of max height vs width and height in relation to the position of the body between the axles. But I could be off my rocker on this one. Isn't there a diagram somewhere that draws a line from the front tires to the rear uppermost point and from rear to the front and then gives you some ratio once you punch in the weight? Hope I'm not confusing you or myself.

Shouldn't you be posting in this thread???

http://www.rme4x4.com/showthread.php?87929-Test-photos-using-RME-for-hosting
 

mbryson

.......a few dollars more
Supporting Member
Sounds like you're going through a pretty common phase of a build where you're second guessing a lot of decisions. This is point where some will get discouraged and either delay or scrap their project. Stick with your plan and finish. It will be much easier to finish, test, evaluate, and modify, than go in a whole new direction now. It looks good, keep going.


this
 

skippy

Pretend Fabricator
Location
Tooele
I agree you are way to deep to back out now. finish the build and wheel it then decide if you wanna do changes
 

mesha

By endurance we conquer
Location
A.F.
Finish it up! I have been waiting to see the finished product. Even if you wheel it and hate it, (I don't think that will be the case) at least you will know.
 

cjncustoms

Well-Known Member
Location
West jordan
Yeah man finish it and wheel it. You're over thinking this whole project way to much. There is no way to get every thing exactly perfect! Finish it wheel and if it Needs a little tweaking then do that. Are you gonna use a sway bar? They help alot. When I linked up my rig, I just set up my wheelbase and desired ride height and set my links up. I never read into all this center of gravity stuff and top of bell housing bolt stuff you're talking about. I just set it up and went for it and it works great! Keep plugging away! It will get there!
 

zukijames

Well-Known Member
Location
not moab anymore
Thanks man.. I just am worried I'm spending all this time and money making a rig that won't climb as well as it did before

But It will be alot more fun to drive
 

planman

Member
Location
Billings, MT
With 40s, a 21.5" frame height, and 112/114" wheelbase, I would think you don't want to go much lower.

You would end up dragging your belly more often than you may want.

Address the issue with anti-squat suspension geometry and weight distribution heavier on the front for crawling or 50/50 for go-fast stuff.


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Cascadia

Undecided
Location
Orem, Utah
When I had steves blue 81, it had a 26" belly with 37's. It was as stable as could be. I know leafs and links are different but I don't think you'll have any problems. It's looking good.
 
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