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Congrats to Carl Nielson for an awesome job at KOH!!!

reddman

reddman

Fabber
Location
SL,UT
jdub said:
Where is there coverage, video coverage. Or is it a matter of getting it together then we will see it? Pirate has some stuff I just don't know if I am looking in the right place.
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Pirate is the only place with coverage so far. Even the official KOH site didn't have anything useful yet.


I can't wait to see how Carl and all the other locals do in BOR this year!
 
BenHanksRacing1

BenHanksRacing1

BenHanksRacing.com
Location
Orem Ut
We went and it was a very cool race! But the pits were crappy as always. I don't under stand why they don't do then like desert races (just a mess) and the course was hard! If it was easy everyone would do it, Thats what makes it fun!! Oh and carl I think that the only thing on that rig that you did is 2 feet of frame its alot different good or bad. As for HOT CARL good work better luck next year!
 
Caleb

Caleb

Well-Known Member
Location
Riverton
rokrash said:
Pirate has the official finishing order up today and there were only 43 rigs that finished!!!!

Amazing!
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So 43 finished....not 5...that's a lot better. I'm not saying make the course easy. No kidding if it were easy everyone would do it. But if the attrition rate was really 95% or higher, then it starts to become ridiculous. Yeah, it's fun because of the challenge, but how much fun is it if you're almost guaranteed to fail...and not because you weren't prepared. If it was really 95% or higher, then all you'd have to do to have a podium finish is drive as slow as you could. Everyone else is going to break because this course is so awesome it breaks everyone, while you coming poking along and finish....talk about a boring race. Not to mention, if you make the course impossible (or near) then you will loose competitors. Think about UROC. When did it start to become a waste of time...when they started making ridiculous obstacles and making it so nearly everyone is going to roll or break. They turned it into a Monster Truck/WWF show rather than a technical rockcrawling competition like it was meant to be. The attrition rate of the Dakar (often said to be the toughest race in the world) isn't even that high. The numbers I could find put it right around mid 80%. Like I said in my first post, anyone can design a course that is going to break every vehicle. A race where you have 95% of the teams failing becomes a race of who can spend the most money and build the strongest car rather than a race about the skill of the drivers.
 
T

TEAM FRED

Registered User
Location
Centerville
Wow!

On behalf of United Team Motorsports I would like to thank all of you who kept track of us at this great race.

I will get some video up within the week!
 
reddman

reddman

Fabber
Location
SL,UT
rokrash said:
Pirate has the official finishing order up today and there were only 43 rigs that finished!!!!

Amazing!
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Where did you find that? The leader board they have up still only shows that the first 5 people hit all 20 checkpoints. Was checkpoint 15 the finish and the rest were bonus or what? :confused:
 
BenHanksRacing1

BenHanksRacing1

BenHanksRacing.com
Location
Orem Ut
You do know that a very average Joe won it don't you? And none of the high end rig finished so what are you getting at? It was about skill, are you mad? I think that it should be open to everyone but they need to qualify the week befor and that way it will weed out the POS rigs.
 
iamsparticus

iamsparticus

Take your Rig to the Edge
Location
Ogden,Ut
Yeah i have to agree that if only 5 out of 102, professional racers, with top of the line built buggies, are finishing i think it has gone to a little to extreme, at least 25 to 30 should finish, that way it's more race than a survival camp, just saying......didn't read the second page, iguess 43 is defientaly more like it, i retract my first comment, congrats Carl who ever you are
 
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Corban_White

Corban_White

Well-Known Member
Location
Payson, AZ
Whatever the numbers are, I am sure they would have been higher if it was not a race. Trying to beat the other guys will make the drivers do some stupid things and break their rigs. In hill-climbing (snowmobile and motorcycle) it used to be that no one made it over the top, the winner was whoever made it the farthest. Now people go over all the time and the winner is whoever is fastest. Same hill as before. The vehicles evolved and the riders improved. It's not that the course is too hard-people are simply pushing the margins. Either the drivers will slow down or the rigs will improve or both. No need to make the course easier.
 
reddman

reddman

Fabber
Location
SL,UT
BenHanksRacing1 said:
You do know that a very average Joe won it don't you? And none of the high end rig finished so what are you getting at? It was about skill, are you mad? I think that it should be open to everyone but they need to qualify the week befor and that way it will weed out the POS rigs.
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Not sure if you're speaking to me or someone else, but of course I'm not mad. I'm just curious where to find the updated info because the list posted on pirate doesn't make a lot of sense.

Anyone know where to find the ammended list?
 
SAMI

SAMI

Formerly Beardy McGee
Location
SLC, UT
2010 Griffin King of the Hammers Final Race Results

FINISHING POSITION / CAR # / DRIVER NAME / TOTAL TIME

1- 667 Loren Healy 6:57:53

2- 232 Brad Lovell 6:58:21

3- 4420 Derek West 7:00:03

4- 554 Rick Mooneyham 7:05:58

5- 921 Erik Miller 7:16:05

6- 427 John Reynolds 7:32:00

7- 4417 Buzz Bronsema 7:40:38

8- 8 Rob McKenney 7:47:21

9- 17 Matt Messer 8:01:09

10- 4444 Jason Pickett 8:03:24

11- 4466 JR Van Ortwick 8:06:49

12- 444 Gary Ferravonti 8:36:38

13- 34 Kevin Yoder 8:39:08

14- 805 Tony Pellegrino 8:39:22

15- 321 Tom Wayes 8:43:17

16- 4411 Dean Bulloch 8:46:57

17- 4488 Brandon Watson 8:47:39

18- 76 Jason Scherer 8:53:57

19- 5 Shannon Campbelll 8:55:46

20- 284 Jack Adams 8:57:54

21- 101 Adam Woodlee 8:58:59

22- 28 John James 9:31:30

23- 816 Lucas Murphy 9:44:00

24- 4433 Adam Carter 9:54:42

25- 212 Matt Peterson 10:00:02

26- 4435 Kevin Sacalas 10:22:39

27- 202 Ritchie Keller 10:35:16

28- 10 Hobie Smith 10:36:46

29- 814 Nicole Johnson 10:43:05

30- 4422 Todd McCullen 11:29:44

31- 4413 Doug Bigelow 11:31:12

32- 3 Rich Klein 12:17:45

33- 97 David Schneider 12:22:45

34- 4450 Greg Hussey 12:24:15

35- 20 Brett Porter 12:26:03

36- 2713 Ralf Kuller 12:31:56

37- 51 Naozumi Tsuda 12:36:13

38- 1224 Wayne Israelsen 12:38:25

39- 204 Michael Colville 13:00:29

40- 4407 Jon Goodman 13:04:18

41- 77 Jeff Mello 13:07:19

42- 1006 Derek Summers 13:10:04

43- 4452 Barry Beadle 13:27:45

1368 Jim Knox DNF

143 Mike Kleinsen DNF

4454 Nazir Adam DNF

686 Joey Weber DNF

541 Andy Gladen DNF

112 Tracy Jordan DNF

209 Brandon Davis DNF

699 Jack Childers DNF

22 Chris Ridgway DNF

4461 Ben Napier DNF

966 Jason Blanton DNF

4414 AJ Condon DNF

4464 Matt Legg DNF

32 Roger Lovell DNF

13 JT Taylor DNF

111 Damian Layer DNF

807 Drew Goldie DNF

9 Chris Garrison DNF

107 Bill Krisel DNF

69 Charlie Melchner DNF

41 Eric Holder DNF

18 Brian Shirley DNF

75 Jeremy Hammer DNF

19 Clayton Walters DNF

4406 Rob Usnick DNF

4405 Travis Carpenter DNF

2 Casey Currie DNF

301 Stephen Watson DNF

929 Michael Feagins DNF

66 Eric Anderson DNF

7 Cottin Rodd DNF

420 Ian Johnson DNF

88 Dustin Webster DNF

133 Brandon Johnson DNF

42 Kim Sears DNF

49 Joe Silva DNF

52 Will Carter DNF

71 Rick D Johnson DNF

916 Brian Tilton DNF

96 Chris Pook DNF

4424 Matt Enochs DNF

269 Robert Foster DNF

770 Bart Dixon DNF

4410 Curtis Warner DNF

24 Greg Stone DNF

222 James Andrus DNF

4465 Carl Nielson DNF

210 Greg Adler DNF

21 Rob MacCachren DNF

81 Levi Shirley DNF

343 Tim Emick DNF

333 Jason Feuilly DNF

707 Peter Wells DNF

4499 Jesse Haines DNF

231 Lou Levy DNF

4478 Les Figueroa DNF

4 Ray Mandell DNF
 
BenHanksRacing1

BenHanksRacing1

BenHanksRacing.com
Location
Orem Ut
No Redd not you, you know that this is a dam hard race! but this reminds me of a UROC event in 04/05 in St Go. that Mike Bear did and everyone bitched that it was to hard but not the teams that placed well. I watched it and it was no harder them last year I think more people just drove past there vehicles abilities thats all.
 
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