Cutting breaks

[timpanogos]

Cutting breaks

Anybody using these? do those handles have a lock-out - to line lock? How do you plumb these? Seems you need two lines going into each back break?

Are they usefull/worth putting in?

 

[Shawn]

Cutting breaks

Anybody using these? do those handles have a lock-out - to line lock? How do you plumb these? Seems you need two lines going into each back break?

Are they usefull/worth putting in?

They have helped me out, and I would do it again.

 

[Caleb]

I think just about every comp buggy and most rec buggies have cutting brakes. I know with mine I sure did and it was very nice to have. Mine had two handles with one line in and two out, I plumbed it so I had the line fromt he master cylinder in and then it split and went to each rear wheel. This enabled me to be able to lock right side or left side individually (this is how they are supposed to work). You can still plumb in a line lock if you want that but these handles do not lock up, or you can rig some sort of device that can hold it locked if you wanted to.

 

[waynehartwig]

I used to build competition style sand rails, and I put these on them for brake steering. Worked great!

 

[rockreligious]

Ive never ran them on a rockcrawler, but my dune buggy had them and the thing would have been useless without cutting brakes

I believe in order to have cutting brakes work effectively on a rockcrawler you would have to have a selectable locker so you could disengage the locker and skid that brake independently. I suppose.

 

[Shawn]

Ive never ran them on a rockcrawler, but my dune buggy had them and the thing would have been useless without cutting brakes

I believe in order to have cutting brakes work effectively on a rockcrawler you would have to have a selectable locker so you could disengage the locker and skid that brake independently. I suppose.

I have a detroit in the rear, I just do a front dig and pull the lever. Works great.

 

[Caleb]

Ive never ran them on a rockcrawler, but my dune buggy had them and the thing would have been useless without cutting brakes

I believe in order to have cutting brakes work effectively on a rockcrawler you would have to have a selectable locker so you could disengage the locker and skid that brake independently. I suppose.

I had a welded rear and it still worked fine. I am sure with a Detroit or selectable it would have been a little more effective but I could still turn without dragging a my inside tire. Like Shawn, I also just did a front dig.

 

[Crinco]

I have never really felt like I wished I had cutting brakes, but I have never had them either. I am sure they help in certain situations, I do a lot of front digs though.
CR

 

[timpanogos]

front dig = neutral transfer to back crank it, and give it some love?

 

[BCGPER]

Yes, if you don't have that ability they're pretty much worthless. If you're lincoln locked or spooled out back, same end result. If that's the case, a good park brake does the same thing. If you've got a detroit or selectable, they're great!

If you want to get really trick, you should see what you can do with a front cutter...... A rear burn with one front wheel locked will get ya out of a lot of tight places.

 

[Devel]

I have a detroit in the rear, I just do a front dig and pull the lever. Works great.

i know this is a dum question but what do you mean by front dig?

 

[I Lean]

i know this is a dum question but what do you mean by front dig?

Put the rear end in neutral, so you're front-wheel-drive. That's a front dig. Add some brakes on the rear only, (or one rear wheel with a cutting brake setup) and you can make really tight turns.

Try it with your Honda and the E-brake. On dirt, you'll see great results. If you have the power to spin the front tires on pavement, you may have equal fun. You do get some weird looks using that technique in tight parking lots though.....

 

[waynehartwig]

Try it with your Honda and the E-brake. On dirt, you'll see great results. If you have the power to spin the front tires on pavement, you may have equal fun. You do get some weird looks using that technique in tight parking lots though.....

lol I've honestly never thought of doing that before! Next time...

 

[Devel]

ill have to try that with my sisters honda :greg:

 

[Spork]

Having flashbacks to Dad's John deere...

 

[Greg]

Having flashbacks to Dad's John deere...

Backhoes have a similar feature.

 

[RockMonkey]

Several comp buggies have had better results locking both rear tires and front digging around than individual tires. I run a high pressure ball valve on my rear break line. Stomp on the breaks, pull the lever, release the breaks and the rear breaks are locked, and the front are not. Release the breaks, pull the lever, then stomp opn the breaks and the fronts are locked and the rears are not. I originally intended to use the ball valve only as an e-break and run individual line locks at each wheel, but I liked how the ball valve works so much that I never wired the line locks.

Very simple, reliable, cheap, and it works great!

 

[I Lean]

Several comp buggies have had better results locking both rear tires and front digging around than individual tires.

I'm one of those. My first buggy had cutting brakes, and I found that if I locked only one wheel I'd just drag it forward. To get a good turn I was always pulling both handles/locking both rear wheels. On my second one, I just used one line lock to lock both rears, and one to lock both fronts.

 

[timpanogos]

I finally came across the old "micro line lockers". Had a heck of a time finding them. If your interested in a mechanical lock instead of an electrical based one ... here it is:

mico, not micro

page down until you see the “Lever Lock” model

They show Page brake in SLC as a distributor

Page Brake

 

[I Lean]

The Mico Lever Locks work great, but last I checked they were ridiculously priced. Something like $400 comes to mind.