Gun Control

[Jinx]

Always good to stock up.

Just remember with the upcoming election and basic economics tell you sooner than later is better... (And you aren’t the only one thinking this way, so prices are going up!)

 

[Coco]

I think anyone in their right mind is stocking (or already has) stocked up. But yes, supply/demand, and often political or any type or big crime event cause price/buying spikes.

 

[Jinx]

Ok I never know where to post stuff but here seems to fit.

 

[Noahfecks]

Only bad people have guns, I would never own a gun or allow one to be brought into my home. No guns here

 

[Noahfecks]

I want to know how they would know people have guns....

Big NSA data center there in UT. Remember the Supreme Court has already ruled that you should have no expectation of privacy online

 

[Noahfecks]

that applies to the listening software on your phone

 

[Mouse]

Heard there are 6 gun control bills ready to go for the HOR. Two are for mandatory registration of guns and ammo. Should be an interesting time to see how this plays out.

 

[mbryson]

Heard there are 6 gun control bills ready to go for the HOR. Two are for mandatory registration of guns and ammo. Should be an interesting time to see how this plays out.

Well, Exec and Legislative branches are controlled by the Dems at this point. We'll see how it goes. Should be unconstitutional but we'll have to see how the Judicial branch rules? In my amateur legal opinion, they'll need to amend the 2nd amendment for those "sensible" laws to be constitutional?

 

[Stephen]

Well, Exec and Legislative branches are controlled by the Dems at this point. We'll see how it goes. Should be unconstitutional but we'll have to see how the Judicial branch rules? In my amateur legal opinion, they'll need to amend the 2nd amendment for those "sensible" laws to be constitutional?

Remove the filibuster and add three more justices to SCOTUS and the any new gun control legislation becomes constitutional pretty quick. Just saying.

 

[mbryson]

Remove the filibuster and add three more justices to SCOTUS and the any new gun control legislation becomes constitutional pretty quick. Just saying.

Then you create about 150 million outlaws.... At some point after that, shit will get real

 

[Stephen]

Then you create about 150 million outlaws.... At some point after that, shit will get real

These are people drunk with power, Marc. Long term consequences have no meaning to them.

 

[Spork]

So if you believe all the crap Joe puts on his web site there was a $200 per gun and $200 per magazine privilege tax. If you're talking under 10 rounds I guess you get to pay on everything but your shotgun and maybe your deer rifle. Let's just say I have an AR with only 10 magazines = $2200, throw in a 10/22 with a few 25round magazines = $600, throw in a pistol with a couple magazines = $400, let's just assume that is all I have and I'm in $3000, What record do they have of any of these magazines? they don't have a serial number so why would I pay anything? We're already ignoring marijuana laws why would I pay attention to any of these laws?
What's to keep me from just making a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds?
something like this --> https://lbry.tv/@Deterrence-Dispensed:2/Ivans100DIY30rdAR-15MagazineV10-DeterrenceDispensed:1
or this? https://lbry.tv/@Deterrence-Dispensed:2/MenendezMag:6
this? https://lbry.tv/@Deterrence-Dispensed:2/ExtendezMagv1:0

If I'm illegal already why do I care about any of the laws? print a swift link and go full auto while I'm at it is that what Joe desires?

 

[glockman]

Lets hope they try this right now. The fight is primed. If they wait 6 months people will likely comply. If they try now, it will trigger a response.

 

[mbryson]

These are people drunk with power, Marc. Long term consequences have no meaning to them.

I have no idea WHO the "national review" is or can account to their credibility. However the 5 MILLION NEW gun owners number seems somewhat credible just from a google search? That's 2% of the population as NEW gun owners this year alone? That's an incredible number. Understandable with the "culture" we've seen in 2020.

Five Million Americans Became First-Time Gun Owners in 2020 | National Review

It will be interesting to see the long-term political implications of this surge.

www.nationalreview.com

Same article says over 30% of people have guns and 43% have them in their household. I'd assume this is a "conservative" leaning rag with the last statement of the article?

 

[Stephen]

I have no idea WHO the "national review" is or can account to their credibility. However the 5 MILLION NEW gun owners number seems somewhat credible just from a google search? That's 2% of the population as NEW gun owners this year alone? That's an incredible number. Understandable with the "culture" we've seen in 2020.

Five Million Americans Became First-Time Gun Owners in 2020 | National Review

It will be interesting to see the long-term political implications of this surge.

www.nationalreview.com

Same article says over 30% of people have guns and 43% have them in their household. I'd assume this is a "conservative" leaning rag with the last statement of the article?

NR is old school Conservative. Founded by William F. Buckley back in the 50's. I've been reading them for years, good , solid, reliable news source for those that fall in the "moderate" pool.

 

[Tebbsjeep]

I laughed when Joe said he would be the one to unite the country, and one of the first things he wants to tackle is gun control.

Yeah, you're not uniting anything pal.

 

[RustEoldtrux]

Sure he is, he's uniting the conservative gun owners to resist his overreach.

 

[TRD270]

Here we go announced as part of the plan for the first 100 days

Guns: After the FBI studies "loopholes" in the gun background check system, Mr. Biden said he would ask Congress to close the "loopholes" and also repeal liability protection for gun manufacturers, which would allow Americans to sue the gun industry if a gun is used in a crime. Biden also said he wants to "restructure" federal agencies that oversee gun laws.

 

[UNSTUCK]

So what does this mean for me? I'm not a criminal. Just average joe. I don't own any guns. I think I'd like a hand gun, rifle, and a shotgun. Should I go buy them today? Should I buy them from a store new or a private party used? I guess I'd like to be off people's radar as much as possible. In a legal way of course (legal by today's standards).
Suppose I went out today and bought them, what do I get? Most common, simple stuff. 9mm, pump action 12ga, no idea on a rifle? What should I expect to pay for this stuff?

 

[xjtony]

For the foreseeable future you can expect to pay a premium for most any firearm if you look on the second hand market. The biggest issue though is the run on ammo. This is not anything new, happens every transition of power. At this point its not a shortage or government control causing the issues, its people panic buying everything in sight and gougers trying to pray on those same people. For someone looking to just enter the market I would almost say look for ammo first and then tailor the gun purchases to that. Example- out here I've seen more 20 gauge ammo available than 12 gauge, so maybe a 20 gauge shotgun would be more useful than a 12 gauge. I think that most of the changes coming are probably going to be much less sweeping and slow going than people are expecting. There are loopholes and issues with the BATFE that really could be better defined and wont have a great effect of the common law abiding citizen. I do disagree with allowing manufacturers to be sued for individuals using guns. On that same vane you would have to let people sue car manufactures for people causing accidents, or alcohol manufacturers for drunk drivers.