Agreed on the sticky Treps. I had my recently-finished 4 seat buggy on Hell's revenge last year with 40 inch sticky Treps. The big hot tub was full of water, but I thought I would dip my toes (tires) in and give it the ol' college try. My very first half-throttle attempt resulted in a "Holy crap! I'm climbing!", and I was out of the tub eight seconds later. No burning the tires first, and not a lot of momentum, just suction cups on sandstone that don't seem to care if it's wet or dry. Stickies are the stuff!