hydraulic steering rams

OCNORB

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I was able to pick up a hydraulic ram for a good price yesterday. I was a little nervous about buying it because I don't know a whole about these setups. I thought it would be about the right size for my front mog axle. It turns out that it is 1.25" bore and a 10" stroke. I have been told that it needs to be 1.5" bore to work properly. Will it work? Is it worth trying?
 

RockMonkey

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10" stroke? Do mog axles really need that long a stroke? Most axles need a 6" or 8" stroke. The 1.25" bore will still work, but it will not have as much power as a 1.5", 1.75", or 2" bore ram. It will be faster though.
 

Ohms

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1.25 Bores are typically used for ram assist because of their small size.
1.75 or bigger (you can get up to 2.5) Bores are found on full hydro. Run it, if it bends you can replace the ram with a bigger one.
Now if you are asking about speed that depends on what orbital valve you are running. If you would like-call me here at the shop and I can go over the sytem with you to see if your on the right track.

Matt Holm
Outer Limit Motorsports
972-2811
 

OCNORB

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RockMonkey said:
10" stroke? Do mog axles really need that long a stroke? Most axles need a 6" or 8" stroke. The 1.25" bore will still work, but it will not have as much power as a 1.5", 1.75", or 2" bore ram. It will be faster though.

I doubt that it needs that long of a stroke. Is it going to be a problem if it is too long???
 

OCNORB

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Ohms said:
1.25 Bores are typically used for ram assist because of their small size.
1.75 or bigger (you can get up to 2.5) Bores are found on full hydro. Run it, if it bends you can replace the ram with a bigger one.
Now if you are asking about speed that depends on what orbital valve you are running. If you would like-call me here at the shop and I can go over the sytem with you to see if your on the right track.

Matt Holm
Outer Limit Motorsports
972-2811

Thanks Matt, I am just wanting it to assist the saginaw box, not a full hydro setup. Maybe it will work OK. I'm not looking for speed, just want to take some stress off of the steering gear and frame. I am running 40" tires and this size class is all new to me.
 

Caleb

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since its just for assist then it should be good. Like said, if you end up bending it then you can jsut upgrade at that time. BTW, I think mog axles do need a 10" stroke (or maybe it was rockwells???). You need to measure your turning storke (or search around, I'm sure its been discussed on PBB) and if you do need a shorter stroke you really should limit the travel of the cylinder, its not good for the ram trying to push farther (you can bend the ram this way) and its not good for the axle (not as much of an issue with assist as it is with full hydro but still not good).
 

OCNORB

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Supergper said:
since its just for assist then it should be good. Like said, if you end up bending it then you can jsut upgrade at that time. BTW, I think mog axles do need a 10" stroke (or maybe it was rockwells???). You need to measure your turning storke (or search around, I'm sure its been discussed on PBB) and if you do need a shorter stroke you really should limit the travel of the cylinder, its not good for the ram trying to push farther (you can bend the ram this way) and its not good for the axle (not as much of an issue with assist as it is with full hydro but still not good).


I took your advive. Looks like it needs the 8" stroke. What's the best way to limit the travel? Would welding a sleeve to the end opposite the body work?
Thanks for all the answers so far.
 
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