hydrogen injection

frieed

Jeepless in Draper
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Takes more power (from the alternator) to separate the gasses than you get back when you burn them...
Also know as oxyhydrogen or Brown's gas.
It does make an exceptionally hot flame for a gas welder (hotter than oxy-acetylene)
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JL Rockies

Binders Fulla Expo
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Draper
I gonna go with eff no.... unless you pair it with one of those electric superchargers.
 
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gijohn40

too poor to wheel... :(
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Layton, Utah
on a diesel site (bomber.com) they had a discussion on this and after a few people tried it they never even noticed that much of a difference... you would probably be better off taking a box and putting your batteries in it and sucking the hydrogen that is put off from the charging cycle....
 

MikeGyver

UtahWeld.com
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Arem
It does make an exceptionally hot flame for a gas welder (hotter than oxy-acetylene)

Oxy-acetylene burns at about 6330°F, while oxy-hydrogen is only around 5070°F. There are only a couple oxy-gas mixtures that burn hotter than acetylene.
Hydrogen is also pretty useless for welding due to hydrogen embrittlement of the steel, which leads to cold cracking.

HHO setups in cars are pretty notoriously gimmicky.
 
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hydrogen injection can work. The problem is on a vehicle that runs closed loop fuel injection will not run its self lean and will not net any real fuel savings. So people put in o2 sensor simulators to lean out the fuel that is being supplemented by the hydrogen. Now the issue with these brown gas generators in they do not produce consistent volumes of gas since they have several variables like resistance in water, heat, voltage and others. So if you can not control or easily measure how much brown gas you are injecting. How can you safely reduce the amount of fuel from your cars fuel system? IMO you cant. Think about it your car runs 14.7:1 in closed loop so in order to save 10% fuel you would have to run your car at 16.7:1 and that is nearing the point of damage. 20% 17.64:1 it will damage your engine with out enough extra fuel. The only way I could see this being able to add real savings and do it safely would be injecting compressed hydrogen just like many diesel owners do with propane. But who wants to carry around a tank of compressed hydrogen in their car?
 
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