Is it the economy?

[ALF]

I've had my CJ7 for sale for quite awhile and have had very few bites I really don't need the cash and the there is nothing wrong with the Jeep, I've just realized I'm not a Jeep guy I'd much rather play with my K5 so the Jeep sits.

Is it the economy or are people not looking for Cj's? or is $6500 too much to ask for a CJ. Some have told me that it's nothing special and everything is bolt on...but hell the Creepies on it are going for $430 and have MAYBE 500 trail miles they still look new.

Help me out I'd like to make more room in the garage to move around but I don't want to give it away I'm half tempted to either moth ball it in a storage unit or part it out:sick:

 

[mbryson]

One ton Jeeps are going for about that nowadays so I do think you're a little on the high side. It is a nice Jeep, though.

 

[ALF]

So what would you say is a fair price?

 

[lewis]

I know a guy that has been trying to sell his cj7 for over a year and he is asking about $7k and its not nearly a nice as yours. He hasn't had one call on it yet though.

 

[Spork]

I think people aren't interested right now. I've been trying to sell my uncle's cj5 (stock but excellent condition) and only had one or 2 even look at it.

 

[bryson]

Economy definitely has people spending less, especially on toys...

Another point to consider is that a bank won't loan even 1/3 of your asking price (or even loan on it at all,) so if someone is going to buy it, they have to come up with an aweful lot of cash.

Plus, the other Bryson has a good point. There are one-ton buggy-type rigs going for less than you are asking... Not that yours isn't worth that, it's just that people (especially on RME) seem to be looking more towards the more "built rig" direction...

 

[ALF]

Well i just posted it on KSL again for $6500 I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best...Really don't need the cash would just like to see it go to someone that will use it more than me!

 

[Caleb]

What axles? For some reason I want to say 44s, if that's the case, I'd say $4500-$5000 is more in line. If it's stock axles (D30/M20) then I'd say $4000-$4500 would be more in line. The economy may be a bit of an issue, but not that much. Things that are priced right are still selling. You won't get over inflated offers like you could a few years ago. As much as you may disagree, the Jeep is totally bolt-on and anyone can build that same Jeep. If it were on 60s and a linked suspension I'd say $6500 would be more inline.

 

[mbryson]

What axles? For some reason I want to say 44s, if that's the case, I'd say $4500-$5000 is more in line. If it's stock axles (D30/M20) then I'd say $4000-$4500 would be more in line. The economy may be a bit of an issue, but not that much. Things that are priced right are still selling. You won't get over inflated offers like you could a few years ago. As much as you may disagree, the Jeep is totally bolt-on and anyone can build that same Jeep. If it were on 60s and a linked suspension I'd say $6500 would be more inline.

I think those are saleable numbers from what I've seen on KSL.com and wherever.

 

[ALF]

What axles? For some reason I want to say 44s, if that's the case, I'd say $4500-$5000 is more in line. If it's stock axles (D30/M20) then I'd say $4000-$4500 would be more in line. The economy may be a bit of an issue, but not that much. Things that are priced right are still selling. You won't get over inflated offers like you could a few years ago. As much as you may disagree, the Jeep is totally bolt-on and anyone can build that same Jeep. If it were on 60s and a linked suspension I'd say $6500 would be more inline.

They're stock axles and I couldn't disagree more on being able to build for the same price. Price out the parts listed Tires and rims alone would cost over $2000, bumpers would cost at least $1000, at least $500 in tube for the cage, $200 for seats, $200 for diff covers, $100 for sliders, $500 for the lift. Add that up and you get $4500 alone without even having a Jeep yet and thats not even all the "bolt on's" Could a good running Jeep with fresh paint be had nearly new soft top and a lined interior be had for $2000? I think not.

Now 60's and linked, a good set of 1 tons are going to run $800-1000, by the time you go through them and put in lockers you're easily into them $2000. As for a link set up I would venture to guess that 90% of the guys out there truly don't have the expertise to do the job correctly and safely so It would need to be done by a fab shop, never priced it but I would guess at least $1000 probably more in labor alone!


Not trying to start an argument but I don't think people truly recognise the cost involved in building a rig, granted as many know I have very little invested in this but I still don't want to give it away

 

[DOSS]

I don't think people truly recognise the cost involved in building a rig

You are correct.. people don't.. therefore they will not pay for something they don't think costs that much.
You could start a educational program to teach the masses how much things are worth but I think you will loose more $$ trying to teach them that it is worth more than they think it is, long before you can sell it for what it is worth

 

[Caleb]

They're stock axles and I couldn't disagree more on being able to build for the same price. Price out the parts listed Tires and rims alone would cost over $2000, bumpers would cost at least $1000, at least $500 in tube for the cage, $200 for seats, $200 for diff covers, $100 for sliders, $500 for the lift. Add that up and you get $4500 alone without even having a Jeep yet and thats not even all the "bolt on's" Could a good running Jeep with fresh paint be had nearly new soft top and a lined interior be had for $2000? I think not.

Now 60's and linked, a good set of 1 tons are going to run $800-1000, by the time you go through them and put in lockers you're easily into them $2000. As for a link set up I would venture to guess that 90% of the guys out there truly don't have the expertise to do the job correctly and safely so It would need to be done by a fab shop, never priced it but I would guess at least $1000 probably more in labor alone!


Not trying to start an argument but I don't think people truly recognise the cost involved in building a rig, granted as many know I have very little invested in this but I still don't want to give it away

Go back and re-read what I said. I NEVER said you could build it for that same price. I said it can EASILY be built...go buy the bolt-ons and bolt them on...done. Bolt-ons hold very little value to most people besides the "mall-crawlers". I think I'm more than capable in recognizing what it costs to build a rig (I've built several, from bolt-on queens to a full on tube buggy) so I'm simply stating the facts. You can go spend $10K and build a rig and not drive it 10'...do you think you're going to get $10K for that rig...not very likely. It's like buying a new car, the second you sign on the dotted line, that car is worth less.

Here is a perfect example of what we are saying. The rig has 1 ton axles, linked suspension, a healthy engine, full cage, etc and he was asking half of what you are. There is something to be said about a clean CJ, but the point is, it's not worth $6500.

 

[Cherokeester]

I have seen a lot of CJ's for sale on this board and they all are overpriced which is why some of them have been on here for almost a year. $6,500.00 should by you one heck of a CJ. The unfortunate thing is sellers believe that they are going to get their money back after spending it. I sold a CJ-5 last summer in one week and I did not put it on this board, park it on a main street somewhere and sell it to a deer hunter who needs a "huntin" rig.

 

[ALF]

Go back and re-read what I said. I NEVER said you could build it for that same price. I said it can EASILY be built...go buy the bolt-ons and bolt them on...done. Bolt-ons hold very little value to most people besides the "mall-crawlers". I think I'm more than capable in recognizing what it costs to build a rig (I've built several, from bolt-on queens to a full on tube buggy) so I'm simply stating the facts. You can go spend $10K and build a rig and not drive it 10'...do you think you're going to get $10K for that rig...not very likely. It's like buying a new car, the second you sign on the dotted line, that car is worth less.

Here is a perfect example of what we are saying. The rig has 1 ton axles, linked suspension, a healthy engine, full cage, etc and he was asking half of what you are. There is something to be said about a clean CJ, but the point is, it's not worth $6500.

Sorry I did misread what you wrote...the link posted is a Smokin deal!! And he gave it away should that really be the baseline for other sales? I understand that you never get what you invest but to what point? Maybe I should just keep it and wheel the piss out of it, once it's trashed drop it off at the salvage yard

 

[1995zj]

^ So you're saying no money is better than ~$4500 like the rig seems to be worth? I've put countless dollars and hours into my rig, and I doubt I could get $6500 for it.

 

[bryson]

Unfortunately Jeeps and other rigs aren't like houses... They don't usually appreciate in value, and you'll almost NEVER get out what you put in, especially if you have to include labor for professional install/fabrication. It is hard enough to barely break even on a rig even if you've done all the labor and fabrication yourself.

Regardless of what you have into the Jeep, it is still only worth what someone else is willing to pay, and unfortunately these days, that amount is never very much.

But good luck! It is a very nice looking rig!

 

[ALF]

^ So you're saying no money is better than ~$4500 like the rig seems to be worth? I've put countless dollars and hours into my rig, and I doubt I could get $6500 for it.

nope, I don't NEED the cash at all so I'd rather keep it then sell it for what they are going for I guess

 

[Johnny4X4]

i think your main focus should be-

i got this rig for almost free-- people on here know that- anyone who looks at the cardomain page knows that -- price to sell and you will a make a quick buck.

 

[1ATony]

I checked it out,it's a nice Jeep.

 

[jeep-N-montero]

I find it interesting that he keeps claiming he doesn't need the cash, yet trying to justify the high selling price is his main argument....