Jury Duty

Coco

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Location
Lehi, UT
Ironically, I had to do jury selection a couple weeks ago. There was 25-30 of us, and they did the examination, and then picked 6-7 people (I don't remember how many exactly) but alas I wasn't picked. I was ok with it, but by the end I was kind of intrigued and would have been willing to be a juror. At least I am out of it now for 2 years. Oh, and the $18.50 check for half the day of sitting there was suuuure worth it...
 

UT410

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Location
Holladay
How did it go @UNSTUCK ?

I've never made it into a jury but I get a kick out of the potential jurors during when they're answering the questions about themselves. I can only imagine the stories trial lawyers have.
 

UNSTUCK

But stuck more often.
How did it go @UNSTUCK ?

I've never made it into a jury but I get a kick out of the potential jurors during when they're answering the questions about themselves. I can only imagine the stories trial lawyers have.
Our jury selection process was kind of strange. It was over zoom. There was about 50 of us. Basically it came down to not having scheduling conflicts, and not having covid. I only raised my hand one time, when they asked if I had ever been a involved with a trust or receive an inheritance. They never asked me a direct question.

Can't really talk about it, so keeping it general... This trial is scheduled to last two weeks! It's a civil suit so it's not cut and dry guilty/not guilty. We have to decide who gets what and how much. The trust is worth a LOT of millions. Close to 30 total beneficiaries that all seem to hate each other (including threats of a hitman), multiple law suits between them. Oh, and a rabbi with sticky fingers.

As a juror, am I allowed to yell at the lawyers?!?!? They spend 20 minutes asking the same question 20 different ways! They read a statement off a will, "XXX get this" and asks the witness what that means....over and over again. The best parts is when the witness catches the lawyer and makes a comment that makes the lawyer look flat out stupid. I laughed out loud twice yesterday. Not sure I'm supposed to do that.
 

RockChucker

Well-Known Member
Location
Highland
The lawyers want to keep it confusing so they can get their sizeable piece of the inheritance that is rightfully theirs by being the leeches off the people who really should get all the money?
 

Kiel

Formerly WJ ZUK
Had jury duty about 5 years ago, accessory to murder trial. Pretty much, SUV full of gang member buddies is driving around, passenger said hey..... pull up over here. Guy rolls down the window and shoots, kills a guy. This was the trial for the other 3 guys in the SUV. I was the last guy to be eliminated. I was pretty happy about that.
 

UT410

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Location
Holladay
Wow, you got selected!

Good luck with it. 2 weeks should be quite the experience.
 

DaveB

Long Jeep Fan
Location
Holladay, Utah
I have been called in for jury duty for medical malpractice, burglary, drunken driving, and business sale. I missed the jury selection for the Arthur Gary Bishop murder trial by one day. I would have never been selected for that one because I couldn't have raised my hand for the question "could you presume the defendant innocent". The malpractice case was called off while they were starting jury selection but I wouldn't have been selected because I have brothers who are doctors and dentists. In the burglary case they sent everyone home who had a technical sounding job or was educated and selected all middle aged housewives who were of the age to be the mother of the defendant. I knew the guy was guilty without hearing any evidence because they had 20 witnesses against and none for. They were simply looking for sympathy. I got released from the drunken driving case because I had too many law enforcement family members. I did get selected for the business sale lawsuit because they were looking for people who could understand mountains of business documents. They said it would take two weeks but it ended up going 8 weeks. I learned to despise the tactics of lawyers. I could have gotten out of the 8 weeks if I had answered one question differently. They asked if anyone was a professional mechanic. I didn't raise my hand but should have answered that I did it as a hobby. As part of the trial a mechanic explained what the business owner asked him to do for a truck with a rod knock to make it look like the truck was good. The lawyers on both sides ended up butchering what the mechanic said (or purposely explaining it wrong). If you ever get selected and you hear some one say on the stand " I don't recall" that is the way they get away with not telling the truth on the stand. In the business sale case it was amazing how the two guys couldn't remember anything when it was against them and could remember the smallest detail when it was against the other guy.
 

Tonkaman

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Location
West Jordan
I have been summoned to jury duty 3 different times.

The first time I wrote a letter to the court explaining that it was horrible timing with work/life and that I couldn’t afford to go financially or professionally. The court simply replied that it was required by law and that I had no choice. So obviously I just ignored their response and never showed up.

The next two times I’ve skipped the asking permission part and gone straight to standing them up. Works every time!
 

UNSTUCK

But stuck more often.
Day 2:
One defense witness spent the entire day on the stand. He’ll be back on it again tomorrow. Starting to feel bad for the guy. Easily half the day was wasted in frivolous banter between the lawyers and the judge. I’m burned out already. Seven days to go. 🤮
 

UNSTUCK

But stuck more often.
Day 3:

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Now you might ask what does cleaning a battery have to do with jury duty. Well I’ll tell you. The judge informed us that we would have a long lunch today as he had to leave the courthouse for another meeting during lunch. So at our next break I asked my wife if she wanted to pick me up and take me to lunch. She did and we got some food. With about 15 minutes before I needed to be back we got in her Armada to leave…… nothing but clicks! Hmmmmm. I open the hood to see the battery covered in corrosion. I head to the back to grab her jumpers only to be informed she took them out to make more room back there!!!! Now I’m starting to panic. I start walking up to cars around us looking for a jump start. As I walked up to one guy he immediately assumed I was going to ask for money. 😂 Now I know what it feels like. A guy had a jumper box he gave me. I ran back to the car and hooked it up. The box started flashing “low battery”. I told her to start it. I have never seen an engine turn over so slow, but after a second it fired up! I have the box back and we raced out of there. We made it back to the court house in record time and I joined the other jurors just a couple minutes late. The entire time I was trying to get help jumping it, I was on the phone with the courthouse trying to let them know my situation. I got bounced around ten different recordings and was never able to talk to anyone. Very frustrating.

Anyways. Another 8 hours into this case and I still feel the same as I did day one. While the defendants did not act perfectly in their capacity as trustees, I’m on their side.

And the battery is now fully serviced and on the charger. 😁
 

UNSTUCK

But stuck more often.
Day 4:
Longest week of my life. The intrigue of jury duty is officially over. We lost a juror due do food poisoning so we are down to 9.

Best part of today was watching a 91 year old lady make the lawyer look stupid. Sure wish I didn’t have a mask on then so they all could have see how much I was laughing.
 
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jeeper

Currently without Jeep
Location
So Jo, Ut
Lawyers make their money based on time. The longer they can drag it out, the better. That is why our system is so screwed up.

It cost me $20,000 last time I got sued. That was just to have a lawyer dig through some papers, take some calls, and then submit the paper that WE found that he had missed. We were released from the suit, no court visit, no meeting the other attorneys, no anything. Just paper submissions. $20,000. :puke:
 

ID Bronco

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Location
Idaho Falls, ID
Lawyers make their money based on time. The longer they can drag it out, the better. That is why our system is so screwed up.

It cost me $20,000 last time I got sued. That was just to have a lawyer dig through some papers, take some calls, and then submit the paper that WE found that he had missed. We were released from the suit, no court visit, no meeting the other attorneys, no anything. Just paper submissions. $20,000. :puke:
similar to all of my interactions, but cheaper than some of mine. I was constantly making points and getting docs that they had and should have known about.
 

UNSTUCK

But stuck more often.
Day 5:
The lawyer for the trust and trustees was on the stand most of today. He makes $295 an hour. It was the greatest show Ive seen in a long time. He flat out owned the plaintiff's lawyer. Every single question was answered with a bunch of blabbering nonsense. Think Billy Madison -“the puppy that it’s puppy way”. He wasn’t going to give her anything. A very direct yes or no question was answered over the course of minutes. She was desperately trying to keep her composure, but was obviously struggling. Her final question: “do you have any idea what this case is about?” We took a break after that. I said to the juror next to me that that lawyer was either worth absolutely nothing or every bit of $295 an hour.
On cross with his lawyer, ( the trusts trial lawyer) he was very open and easy to talk to and fed us a wealth of information.

On redirect, he closed right up again.

Yeah, he was that good.
 

UNSTUCK

But stuck more often.
Day 6:
Don’t have time right now, but DANG!!! The defense moment that movies are made of!


Wait for it…….
 
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