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TRD270

TRD270

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Not a bad deal, i'm sure you could negotiate off a little more as well.


I know the Taco feeling :D I just picked up a 2nd gen for a pretty good price off ksl
 
sixstringsteve

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I've gotta give props to someone who is upfront and honest about why it was salvaged.

However, I think he's high to think it's worth that much. It's barely worth that much with a clean title.

The thing I've learned about tacomas on KSL is that you generally don't want the cheapest ones you can find. Although there are exceptions, don't expect to find a deal on a tacoma on KSL. If you do see a deal, expect it to sell in the first 3 hours. Think of the money you'll save long-term, not on the initial price tag. :D
 
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glockman

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I am glad this person is honest about the reason, I just don't think they get the whole idea of playing down the reason for salvage. Maybe it's just me but I laughed for 5 minutes. "the only reason it is salvaged is because it was hit by a semi" Really, that's it? I really can't believe how much these trucks are going for. That truck sold for around $20k new 10 years ago before it was hit by a semi. I like them, but people are a little too proud of them in my opinion.
 
sixstringsteve

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yeah, it never ceases to surprise me how many people think a "salvaged" title is no worse than getting a scratch on the tailgate.
 
TRD270

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I picked up a 1996 4runner back in 02 that had a salvaged title, it had been in a flood. We drove that truck for almost 10 years without any noticeable problems from the flood, and way back then I paid 9k for it
 
sixstringsteve

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FWIW, my taco was built in the USA (in my hometown actually).

No doubt there are cheaper options out there, but I think tacomas are worth every penny you spend on them. To each their own.
 
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Gravy

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Steve, are you actually arguing that Toyota is an American company?

Ford builds cars in Belgium and China, does that make them Belgian or Chinese?

That's besides the point. In my opinion, I don't believe any nearly stock vehicle with a salvage title should be worth the same as clean book value.

That's why I say Taco's are overpriced: name another vehicle that you can sell 10 years old, 120,000 miles and salvage title for half of the price of new? (and people comment: "that's not a bad price" lol)

I'm not saying there aren't other vehicles that are overpriced, (Wranglers and Samurais are a great example of this) but compared to the rest of the market they hold high value.

I guess I look at vehicles with a different eye: If I had to get a small pickup and that was my budget: for $8.2k I see a Ranger, Dakota, S10 or Frontier with $2-3k of spending money to make it unique.
 
sixstringsteve

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gravesdiggerxj said:
Steve, are you actually arguing that Toyota is an American company?
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Of course not. I'm well aware that Toyota is a Japanese company, but most people don't know that many were built in the US, supporting US jobs. You like to drive american, cool. I like to drive Japanese cars, especially when they support american jobs. To each their own. I'm glad we all like different things, it'd be boring if everyone drove the same rig and had the same opinions.


gravesdiggerxj said:
I don't believe any nearly stock vehicle with a salvage title should be worth the same as clean book value.

That's why I say Taco's are overpriced: name another vehicle that you can sell 10 years old, 120,000 miles and salvage title for half of the price of new? (and people comment: "that's not a bad price" lol)
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100% agree. There's no way it's worth what he's asking. I wouldn't pay $3k for it.
 
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JL Rockies

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One of the reasons Toyotas hold their value is banks love Toyotas. Loan value has a huge impact on used car market value since most people can't afford to pay cash. GMAC wouldn't loan 100% of sticker on a new GM vehicle but most banks will loan 130% of sticker on a new Toyota. When I bought my 1996 4Runner with 200k miles I got a small loan without issue; thats not going to happen with any <insert domestic nameplate>.
The other advantage that companies like Toyota and Honda have going is they're never on sale. When you want to sell a used Chevy truck during truck month and Chevy is offering 0% APR and $6K in incentives you need to seriously discount your trunk no matter what KBB says if you want to attrack a buyer. A Toyota anything has historically been among the best vehicle investments.
I'd never buy anything with a salvage title though.
 
chans

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That's why I will continue to drive American.

Like Chrysler that was owned by Daimler from 1998 - 2007 which makes them a German Company and manufactured Dodge trucks in Mexico, some Jeep stuff in Canada and cars in Europe.

I would rather have the Japanese trucks built in Japan since I wouldn't have to worry about my American frame rusting through but then I guess I would need to worry about the sheet metal.
 
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bryson

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chans said:
That's why I will continue to drive American.

Like Chrysler that was owned by Daimler from 1997 - 2007 which makes them a German Company and manufactured Dodge trucks in Mexico, some Jeep stuff in Canada and cars in Europe.

I would rather have Japanese trucks built in Japan since I wouldn't have to worry about my Dana frame rusting through but then I guess I would need to worry about the sheet metal.
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Huh? You will continue to drive American, or you would rather have Japanese trucks built in Japan? BTW, your Taco is made in the USA, Dana doesn't build frames, and metal will rust no matter where it came from. Remember Toyota recalled tons of Tacomas for frame rust problems? And mini truck bodies are often rustier than Tacoma's (the dude, not the truck) pecker.

*edit* I see you fixed most of the post... Carry on.:)
 
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SAMI

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gravesdiggerxj said:
Steve, are you actually arguing that Toyota is an American company?

Ford builds cars in Belgium and China, does that make them Belgian or Chinese?
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Ignorant much? "Buying American" is no longer black and white my friend. Research this before you continue...

The Toyota Sienna is 90% American made parts, whereas the beloved Ford Mustang is comprised of 65% American parts. Tell me, which is more American? According to the Japan Automobile Manufacturers Association, 67% of the Japanese-brand cars now sold in North America are made in North America. Did you know that Chevy is rebadging Korean-made cars under the bowtie? Is that your definition of "American"? Back in 2003 a study from the Ann Arbor, Michigan-based Center for Automotive Research (CAR) shows Toyota's investment of $13.4 billion in its U.S. operations contributed 386,300 jobs (directly employing 29,135 people) and $14.4 billion in wages to the U.S. economy. Toyota spends billions of dollars per year expanding US plants, creating jobs, etc, while others look to built in Canada and Mexico.. The fact is, "American Made" isn't exactly what it used to be. I'm grateful for companies like Toyota for bringing massive manufacturing and jobs to the US. They buy US land, pay US taxes, employ US workers, support US manufacturers, and so on and so forth. I can't stand it when people say "Buy American".

Interesting list compilled be Cars.com... The Top 10 American-built vehicles

1. Ford F150
2. TOYOTA CAMRY
3. Chevy Silverado 1500
4. Chevy Cobalt
5. Ford Focus
6. TOYOTA SIENNA
7. Chevy Malibu
8. Pontiac G6
9. Ford Escape
10. TOYOTA TUNDRA
See 'Auto Industry Update: 2006'
 
cruiseroutfit

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As for the 'value' or 'overvalue' of Tacomas (or Toyotas in general) its all relative, when they last x% longer many (including myself) see no issue in paying x% more than you would for a xyz brand. Its like many other aspects of life, 'buy once, cry once' or buy cheap and replace often. I paid a fair price (relative to my expectations) for my Tacoma, but then again I sold my previous one for what I would also consider a fair price (again relative)

I didn't buy it as an investment, I bought it as a resource. However it is naive to ignore the correlation between the resale value and the reliability and longevity of these vehicles and it has nothing to do with Kool Aid ;)
 
gorillaxj

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I am glad people are educated as to what "American" is, its become a very complicated thing to claim...

Any who, the Tacoma that is in question is over priced IMO I agree that it should be about 3-4K. I would never pay low book for a salvaged tittle. with or without semi related issues lol. I have seen some vehicles with salvage titles that are VERY clean and would most likely never have a problem related to the "accident". but its still been molested in my eyes. This Tacoma doesn't match color, has aftermarket stuff on it(mostly cheaper then fixing it the "factory" way) and it still has body damage. to me it looks like its been pieced back together in a shoty way... I would walk away....

I work for Toyota, and I bleed Toyota.... But drive a Jeep as its whats affordable for what I want. One day I'll have a SAS'ed Toy! :) just my 0.37 cents lol
 
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TRD270

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I believe in 2009 or maybe 2010, all Tacoma's since have been built in San Antonio Texas, along side the American built Tundra
 
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