My friends and I go up Willow Springs road and go off one of the many off shoots of that. You are close to the main road, but still secluded. The road is along 191 about 10 miles north of town, and about a half mile north of the Shell station/RV park that is out there (in fact one of the off shoot roads goes into the RV park). The road has a sign pointing to it going either way on 191. We have always had good luck there.