pet food recall

[ryslc]

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=997894

 

[offroaddave]

The company Menu Foods is pulling 60,000,000 containers of canned pet food after reports of animals dying and getting kidney failure.

That's a lot of cans.

 

[Kiel]

Good to know... I half way through my first bowl

 

[hambone]

the pic in the article shows IAMS is that made by menu foods? and does it include bagged food?

 

[waynehartwig]

Good thing I wouldn't fee Iams to Sadamm himself....Science Diet is another of the same crap...

I won't go into it, but if you care to know more, ask, and I'll talk your ear off about the crap pet food stores sell....

 

[Kiel]

It's all about Nutro

 

[waynehartwig]

It's all about Nutro

Nutro is better, but but there is better out there. Find something with more vegies...

Science diet has to be the worst pet food made!

Pet food is not regulated by any type of angency like people food is. So they can put anything they want in pet food, as long as you buy it, they don't care.

How many of you have cat's with kitty stones? How many have cats with bad hair/fur ball problems? How many are using flee collars or dips? These are all from poor nutrition. Flee collars and dips are bad for animals! Science diet that is 'specially formulated for kitty stones' is VERY bad for them and only making the problem worse. The vet that reccomends it, is bad for animals too... Find a new vet.

Here's some tips...

If corn is listed in the first three ingredients (or at all), the food is crap. The only animal able to digest corn is a cow - humans can not digest corn and dogs/cats have smaller digestive systems than we do.

If 'fat' is listed in any of the ingredients, stay away as well. Toxins are stored in the fat. If the animal died from toxic poisons, you are feeding that to your animal. Toxins can not be depleted once consumed.

Steady diet of vinigar and garlic will get rid of flees with no collars or dips. If it's not in the ingredients of the food you fed them - switch! You can also put a teaspoon of vinigar over their food each day. Or if you use a free feeder (which you should), you can pour a cup over the top of like 5lbs.

Any type of chloride is bad, too. They put this into pet food to help breakup the stuff the animal is unable to digest on their own.

Watch out for wheat of any kind in pet food. Wheat is a cheap source of protein, so makers will over indulge in this stuff to get high protien numbers for a cheap cost. Wheat is not necessarily bad, unless your animal is allergic to it. Does your pet loose hair? Constantly scratching itself, but does not have flees? Thin coat? These are all signs of allergies to their food, and it's most likely because their food has wheat in it.

Any kind of 'meals'. Such as pork meal, beef meal, poultry meal, etc. These aren't necessarily bad in themselves, but if the taken into consideration of the rest of the ingredients can be... Poultry meal, for example, could be anything from a chicken OTHER than meat. It could be their bones, their beaks, etc. and it's all ground up to form the ingredient poultry meal.

 

[waynehartwig]

Oh, pets will only eat when they are hungry - period. If they are overweight and on 'diets' it's because of the food they are being fed. If the food has corn as the first ingredient and then a bunch of fats as the other two, then you are starving them to death, which is causing them to eat and poop more, they aren't getting ANY nutritional value.

If they are being fed nutritional food, they will eat less.... Sounds like rocket science, eh?

 

[britney]

You can't go on like that without saying what your pet food suggestion is.
(Unless you expect me to start buying it from the butcher? )

 

[waynehartwig]

You can't go on like that without saying what your pet food suggestion is.
(Unless you expect me to start buying it from the butcher? )

I buy Pinnacle. The only place in the SLC area that I was able to find it at is a place called Ma and Pa's Bakery on 33 s and about 11 e.

Just to be 100% true with what I'm saying, this stuff isn't completely 100% good either. For example, salt is bad. However, it is the best dog food that I could find anywhere. I figure a little salt is better than some hydrocloric acid that is in other foods - yes, some have this...

But I'll tell ya... My ex wife has a cat that had major urinary problems. The vet had it on all kinds of pills and a special diet (Science Diet). She is a flight attendent so her time is short and every month she would go to her vet for his checkup and stock up on everything. I made her toss out a month + of junk that her prescribed for the cat and started feeding it Pinnacle and FRESH water daily. In under 6 weeks the cat was fine. No more hair ball issues, no more urinary problems and it started acting like a kitten, meaning it was more playful than usual.

My moms dog (black lab) had hip issues. To the point that if it's asleep and wakes up, it actually would howl when getting up from a laying position. Within 2 weeks of being on Pinnacle and daily FRESH water, his hip problems went away and even started running around with my dog - which her dog would never do before.

Pinnacle is expensive, like $40 for a 30# bag. That bag will last my two dogs about 4 weeks and I free feed them (meaning I have food out 24x7 for them to eat anytime they want). After you buy so many bags (10 I think it is?) then you get a free bag. Everywhere that sells Pinnacle has this deal going on, it's Pinnacle's way of saying thanks for buying their product.

If you won't spend the money and buy good stuff, then buy Purina One in a red foil bag - that's about the best one I could find at the two large pet stores and it is readily available in grocery stores and etc. It does have corn in it (third ingredient I think it was?), but it doesn't have the other toxins or etc. that other foods have.

If you switch foods, do not switch cold turkey. Phase in the new food with their old. You don't have to make this a slow month process, 2 days is fine... Since they have small digestive systems, the get use to new food quickly. If you do switch cold turkey, they could have an upset stomache and/or diarrhea. Nothing that is fatal, but..

And here is the ingredients of Pinnacle...

Chicken Meal, Chicken, Whole Oat Flour, Toasted Oats, Tomato Pomace, Fresh Potato, Chicken Fat (Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Quinoa, Dehydrated Mixed Vegetables (Carrot Flakes, Red and Green Bell Peppers, Broccoli, Peas, Tomato Flakes, Celery, Garlic, Spinach and Parsley), Grapeseed Oil, Cottage Cheese, Egg Product, Lecithin, Rosemary and Sage Extract, Papain, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Bifidobacterium Bifidum Fermentation Product, Dried Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Product, Dried Bacillus Licheniformis Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus Lactis Fermentation Product, Salt, Calcium Carbonate, Potassium Chloride, Choline Cloride, Zinc Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Amino Acid Complex, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Iron Amino Acid Complex, Calcium Pantothenate, Ferrous Sulfate, Vitamin A Acetate, Ascorbic Acid, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Manganese Amino Acid Complex, Thiamine Mononitrate, Copper Sulfate, Copper Amino Acid Complex, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Biotin, Sodium Selenite.

 

[waynehartwig]

..Still to be 100% true, cat food will always have corn in it. It's the only way to get those little....Creatures...to eat anything. Corn is very pallatible to animals, so they put it in there....Cat's can't digest corn either, that's why dogs love to eat their poop. Dog's like corn, too...

If you look at all of the treats ingredients, you will see that they all have corn as their #1-3 ingredient. They will also have sugar in them, which is also bad for animals. Basically put, treats are bad, mmmk.

 

[chadschoon]

wayne ur starting to scare me...

 

[Tacoma]

Yes sir, Herr Doktor.


So I'll take a look and try to get some for our cat, see what happens. Can't hurt, and we do like that cat an awful lot. Thanks Wayne!

 

[Rocky]

Nutro is part of the recall. here is a list of pet food that are made by Menu Foods. http://www.menufoods.com/recall/product_dog.html

 

[waynehartwig]

wayne ur starting to scare me...

Why's that? Because of the facts I just discussed? It's completely true and if you love your pet, you will be scared. I'm not trying to scare anyone, just shed some light on the crap that is sold...

If you are unsure if your present brand of pet food is good, simply take the list of ingredients to your PC and do a search for each ingredient you don't know what it is. Enter the ingredient name and then MSDS (material safety data sheet - this sheet talks about the specifics of the chemical and releases any saftey information needed). Science Diet has TONS of crap in it. You'll find that some ingredients will say things like 'if swallowed, call poison control immediately' and etc.

 

[waynehartwig]

Yes sir, Herr Doktor.


So I'll take a look and try to get some for our cat, see what happens. Can't hurt, and we do like that cat an awful lot. Thanks Wayne!

What's up with your cat? That whole kitty stone/urinary thing?

 

[waynehartwig]

Nutro is part of the recall. here is a list of pet food that are made by Menu Foods. http://www.menufoods.com/recall/product_dog.html

Wow! That is a LOOONNNG list!!!!

Anyone know what is causing the recall? I mean, I know that dogs are dying, but why? Did they use tainted meat? or somethng?

 

[offroaddave]

Americas Choice, Preferred Pets
Authority
Award
Best Choice
Big Bet
Big Red
Bloom
Bruiser
Cadillac
Companion
Demoulas Market Basket
Eukanuba
Food Lion
Giant Companion
Great Choice
Hannaford
Hill Country Fare
Hy-Vee
Iams
Laura Lynn
Loving Meals
Meijers Main Choice
Mighty Dog Pouch
Mixables
Nutriplan
Nutro Max
Nutro Natural Choice
Nutro Ultra
Nutro
Ol'Roy Canada
Ol'Roy US
Paws
Pet Essentials
Pet Pride - Good n Meaty
Presidents Choice
Price Chopper
Priority
Publix
Roche Bros
Save-A-Lot
Schnucks
Shep Dog
Springsfield Prize
Sprout
Stater Bros
Total Pet
Western Family
White Rose
Winn Dixie
Your Pet


Some of the names are plain scary, Stater Bros. Don't they make auto parts or something?

 

[Bone Down]

from what i have read and heard on the news so far this is only for wet and pouched dog and cat foods.