Plastic Label holders...where to get them?

[Caleb]

I'm looking for some of the heavy duty plastic label holders that are sticky on one side about 4"x6" so you can slide a note card in and out. You guys gotta know what I'm talking about


Or any other suggestions for labeling servers (with more info than just a name).

 

[78mitsu]

we use a lable maker, the name - IP - asset tag(barcode) and on a seperate lable what the server is used for. if the server is virtualized there are up to 4 lables on it. I can get you a part number for the lable maker if you're interested if you're interested.

http://www.rplastics.com/wallframe.html is probabbly what you're looking for.

 

[Spork]

hmmm... and most the time I feel lucky just to find the server labeled...

 

[Caleb]

we use a lable maker, the name - IP - asset tag(barcode) and on a seperate lable what the server is used for. if the server is virtualized there are up to 4 lables on it. I can get you a part number for the lable maker if you're interested if you're interested.

http://www.rplastics.com/wallframe.html is probabbly what you're looking for.

We have a nice Brady Labeler that I was going to use with Barcodes, etc but I wasn't sure if that was a good idea. Barcodes would be nice for inventory and such but I don't think they'd really get used. Maybe I'll try that and see how that works. Those sleeves are similar to what I was envisioning but those are large (8.5x11), I was hoping for something about the size of a note card. I know they exist, I've seen em all over but for the life of me I can't find them. I'll check around that site you posted.

 

[Caleb]

hmmm... and most the time I feel lucky just to find the server labeled...

Yeah, we (the ones that need to know) all know approx where all ours servers are and 99% of the time they have names on them but our CTO doesn't have a clue so he wants us to label them all similar to what 78mitsu does.

 

[scoutabout]

Office max/depot.

 

[Caleb]

Office max/depot.

I'll have to swing by them, I checked their online stores and couldn't find anything...I thought for sure they would have them. I've also checked Staples, Grainger, and I need to get with our Xpedex rep to see if he can get something.

 

[78mitsu]

we lable everything. even both ends of the network / power cords where everything is mission critical in our environment a wrong lable will ruin your day. I'll grab a pic. --> low quality from phone.

 

[Caleb]

we lable everything. even both ends of the network / power cords where everything is mission critical in our environment a wrong lable will ruin your day. I'll grab a pic.

We have most everything labeled as well, It makes it a million times easier to find a label than it is to find a tone on a line. I just think that having the server info right on the server is a bit of a security risk.

 

[78mitsu]

We have most everything labeled as well, It makes it a million times easier to find a label than it is to find a tone on a line. I just think that having the server info right on the server is a bit of a security risk.

depends on how secure your environment is and how you control physical access. from the lables you get name-IP and function which are advertised in DNS anyways. There are only 4 people that can freely access our data centers. and our policy is pretty specific as to who can go through the door, cameras in both centers and keypad logging for who goes through the door. We've got full remote resiliency/autonomy between data centers, so even burning down the building won't take the network down.

 

[Spork]

So does Dell require you to space the servers or am I not seeing something mounted between them?

 

[Caleb]

Our server room is very nice, with only 4 of us in total having access to it. It's all controlled with access cards and you have to get through two separate doors to get to the server room. Our server room is a show piece for our company (they are very proud of it) so when they have tours coming through they like to take them through the server room, I just don't like the fact of having the info advertised right on the machine. I know the info is all available anyways but why make it easier than it needs to be.

 

[78mitsu]

So does Dell require you to space the servers or am I not seeing something mounted between them?

no, it's a power per rack thing, they are all DC powered, so we allocate a certain amount of amperage per rack, if you're familiar with telco power each device is fused each rack is fused each load leg is fused it just keeps it clean) it ends up we can fit 12 2850's per rack and maintain 80% of max load at max load. and they cool better that way (about 20*f) which is worth the lost rack realestate. I've got about 30 2u dells.

 

[78mitsu]

Our server room is very nice, with only 4 of us in total having access to it. It's all controlled with access cards and you have to get through two separate doors to get to the server room. Our server room is a show piece for our company (they are very proud of it) so when they have tours coming through they like to take them through the server room, I just don't like the fact of having the info advertised right on the machine. I know the info is all available anyways but why make it easier than it needs to be.

I'd never put router or root passwords or something like that on a label, but --- I've seen it before. I think it boils out to personal preference, and whether you believe that obscurity is security

 

[Spork]

I'd never put router or root passwords or something like that on a label, but --- I've seen it before. I think it boils out to personal preference, and whether you believe that obscurity is security

I prefer them on a post-it note on my monitor.

 

[78mitsu]

I prefer them on a post-it note on my monitor.

everyone else does. I've got a password enforcement bot, I use in my windows network, a brute force dictionary attack if I see a password on a monitor I add it to the dictionary so if I can see it it can't be used, it has reformed our employees use of stickies.


I do maintain a hard-copy of all my passwords in my safe at the house so If ... someone could find them.

 

[Caleb]

I'd never put router or root passwords or something like that on a label, but --- I've seen it before. I think it boils out to personal preference, and whether you believe that obscurity is security

yeah our CTO wanted admin usernames on all the labels too...I told him what I thought of that idea

Our CTO is a programmer, has zero real world experience with networking and if it were up to him there would be no passwords and you'd leave machines logged in all the time. Oh, and we'd be an all Windows network. He doesn't have to deal with the repercussions of poor security so therefore it's not his problem. He has already given the root passwords out to some of his guys for a few of our servers...I just don't understand him. In his opinion, if it's free (Open Source, etc) then it's no good, i fit costs a ton of money (Microsoft) then it's the greatest thing ever. :sick:

 

[78mitsu]

yeah our CTO wanted admin usernames on all the labels too...I told him what I thought of that idea

Our CTO is a programmer, has zero real world experience with networking and if it were up to him there would be no passwords and you'd leave machines logged in all the time. Oh, and we'd be an all Windows network. He doesn't have to deal with the repercussions of poor security so therefore it's not his problem. He has already given the root passwords out to some of his guys for a few of our servers...I just don't understand him. In his opinion, if it's free (Open Source, etc) then it's no good, i fit costs a ton of money (Microsoft) then it's the greatest thing ever. :sick:

Most people don't understand the Open source model, so it's tough for someone who's resistive to it understand it really is free, especially if they're a developer. Someone who hasn't learned the inate mis-trust necessary for IT people of ... everyone... then he really shouldn't be a CTO, no matter how much paper he has. A proper demonstration of a null admin password on a windows box seems to be in order.