Tacoma
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Utahcryogenics
Formerly "Beerman"
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- Murray
Bodine: Hi, my name is Jeremie and it seems I placed judgment on you in error. My bad. I apologize for my lack of knowing that you possibly forwarded that message. Funny thing is, I did the very same thing on another forum.
So, if it wasnt clear before I think we came to the conclusion that referring to him as Osama "may" be in bad taste, but it isnt racist and I wronged you for calling you out. I am the idiot, and the egg is on my face. Again, I am truly sorry.
SOOOOOOOO I hear that McCain has cancer? Is this true?
So, if it wasnt clear before I think we came to the conclusion that referring to him as Osama "may" be in bad taste, but it isnt racist and I wronged you for calling you out. I am the idiot, and the egg is on my face. Again, I am truly sorry.
SOOOOOOOO I hear that McCain has cancer? Is this true?
Utahcryogenics
Formerly "Beerman"
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- Murray
Yeah, I think this is where I realized I was wrong in calling it "racist".
So how about that cancer?
Bodine: Hi, my name is Jeremie and it seems I placed judgment on you in error. My bad. I apologize for my lack of knowing that you possibly forwarded that message. Funny thing is, I did the very same thing on another forum.
So, if it wasnt clear before I think we came to the conclusion that referring to him as Osama "may" be in bad taste, but it isnt racist and I wronged you for calling you out. I am the idiot, and the egg is on my face. Again, I am truly sorry.
SOOOOOOOO I hear that McCain has cancer? Is this true?
It's all good Jeremie.
I don't know about the cancer thing either.
waynehartwig
www.jeeperman.com
- Location
- Mead, WA
How do you think I feel being in a state FULL of heavy, whiney, liberals? You think my vote for McCain will take me anywhere? But yet I'm not bitching about it and I will cast my vote regardless if it's 'wasted' or not.
waynehartwig
www.jeeperman.com
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- Mead, WA
I hear Barack Hussein Obama wasn't actually born a US Citizen! And that he didn't become a citizen until just last year. That's a little late, dontcha think?
And that he didn't become a citizen until just last year. That's a little late, dontcha think?x 1000
Anyone remember the Simpsons when Mayor Quimby was running against Sideshow Bob for mayor?
Lisa's quote is very appropriate:
"he's the lesser of two evils!"
GOAT
Back from the beyond
- Location
- Roanoke, VA
The only thing more depressing than this thread are the "undecided voters". They claim to be soooooo on the fence and actually believe anyone gives a damn about their vote. Particularly in Utah where it's better not to vote if you're not repub so at least you dont have to attend jury duty.
If you haven't made up your little mind by now, then you are a moron.
On a side note: Seems that the die hard conservative state of Utah has a piss poor military volunteer rate. NIMBY
http://www.nationalpriorities.org/table6militaryrecruiting2007
If you haven't made up your little mind by now, then you are a moron.
On a side note: Seems that the die hard conservative state of Utah has a piss poor military volunteer rate. NIMBY
http://www.nationalpriorities.org/table6militaryrecruiting2007
Brett
Meat-Hippy
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- Salt Lake City Utah
I hear Barack Hussein Obama wasn't actually born a US Citizen!
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp
Come on Wayne
You really believe he was elected to the Senate without being a US citizen? And highlighting Hussein does nothing......his father was from Africa (Alego, Kenya), not the Middle East. Slight difference.
Tacoma
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I agree about the undecided voters.
But..... that little list there only shows 2 years. I'd like to see the stats for 2001-2005.
Utahcryogenics
Formerly "Beerman"
- Location
- Murray
Wow, spoken like a level headed and well respected intelligent person.....
The name calling is extremely pathetic and childish and only shows the true level of ones character.
Its simple, you have a right to vote, and a right not to vote. Not everyone gives a **** or has the time to sit around the tv and watch debates and ***** about America. Some of us are occupied by more important things in life like working, school, raising a family, etc. Not everyone has the time you must have to come to a clear decision on a vote. It doesnt make them less American. The same goes for people who decide to join the military. Just because others dont, doesnt make them less American either. Also you have to keep in mind that the people running for president often sell one thing, and never deliver it. They tell us things we want to hear for the vote, and it never comes to fruition.
I am pissing up a rope here and I dont know why, I really dont give a ****. This is why I hate talking religion and politics. People get all pissy and start insulting each other.
This is my last post, I am going to be a "moron" elsewhere.
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Tacoma
Et incurventur ante non
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Interesting. People have the right to stay uninformed, not take an active and/or interested role in the political process... the one that to a large extent dictates how much free time they have to think about it.
Kind of self-contradictory message there, Beerman.
Kind of self-contradictory message there, Beerman.
I've always felt if you don't vote you shouldn't have a say or the right to complain. After all you didn't care enough to get involved or try to change things before.
You may not like who is running but that's who chose to run. You may not like the party's choice but that's who people voted for in the primary's.
Take the time to decide who is the least of two evils to you and vote. Than you'll have the right to complain.
"Vote" Stand For Something!
JM2C
You may not like who is running but that's who chose to run. You may not like the party's choice but that's who people voted for in the primary's.
Take the time to decide who is the least of two evils to you and vote. Than you'll have the right to complain.
"Vote" Stand For Something!
JM2C
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- Sandy, Ut
I'm surprised to see this even highlighted? But you act as if you don't know so I'll treat you as such
Utah has a higher percentage of LDS youth than any other state in the US. That said males age 19-25 are encouraged to serve missions and females age 21-27 are also encourage though seemingly not in the masses men are. 62% of recruits nationwide are under 22 years old.
Add to that with the low age of marriage here in Utah. Many 21 year old males (other states) are trying to do something with their lives, the military makes a great option, here in Utah the average 21 year old male is fresh off a mission and looking to get married ASAP or already supporting a wife and child. Not the typical candidate for the services.
Utah also has an higher than average high school graduation percentage, bachelor degree percentage and business owner percentage. All things I would attribute to the numbers especially given the DOD's lowering of entrance standards including a double in level IV recruits. Sometimes its about "quality" not "quantity"
While Alabama has the highest percentage of recruitment, it has one of the lowest percentages of what the DOD calls "high quality" recruits. (I'm not making this up its in your link )Anyone know where their definition of "youth" is? I couldn't find it anywhere on their site and I'm suspecting that actually has something to do with the numbers as well. Utah has a far higher percentage of "youth" under the age of 18 than most (all?) states (yeah big surprise I know
). So if their "youth" number is say 15-25 they Utah would lack in the overall numbers.
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Some of us undecided voters are not real happy with the choices. After watching the debate last night, I'm even more unclear on my "choice". What a couple of knuckleheads. Obama seems to have "charisma" on his side. McCain seemed fairly desperate at times and had some great answers at others.
Can we vote on the issues rather than the candidates?
Tacoma
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So basically, Mormonism is responsible for Utah's lack of patriotism? WTF!!!!
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- Bountiful, land of rocks
So basically, Mormonism is responsible for Utah's lack of patriotism? WTF!!!!
heheh
Oh, let's spin a political thread into a religious one. Great
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So basically, Mormonism is responsible for Utah's lack of patriotism? WTF!!!!
You seem real quick to call those that don't serve "unpatriotic", the two can be mutually exclusive in my opinion. I didn't serve, yet I consider myself patriotic... am I wrong.
My point is simply the fact the while many states are sending their "youth" to the services, Utah is sending them on missions. Its not wrong, its not unpatriotic, its just a difference in approach. I would be interested to know if the recruiters aim differently here in Utah. They are half as effective at signing up a high school senior than other states, again half of those high school male seniors are preparing to serve a mission, so even investigating the military is blank point. From there where do you get the exposure about the military? I've never once heard from a recruiter past high school... Its a tough business for the recruiters, I'm sure they do the best they can but Utah's pre-disposed culture throws a wrench in the gears of their most effective recruitment option IMO.
Tacoma
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uh, Kurt, Marc---it was a joke.
I personally don't think serving has jack to do with patriotism. There are a lot of ways to be patriotic (though I won't include "paying more taxes" in there...).
Incidentally, that's exactly what I was thinking was the cause-- the recruit pool in UT is otherwise engaged a lot of times.
Gawsh.
I personally don't think serving has jack to do with patriotism. There are a lot of ways to be patriotic (though I won't include "paying more taxes" in there...
). Incidentally, that's exactly what I was thinking was the cause-- the recruit pool in UT is otherwise engaged a lot of times.
Gawsh.
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uh, Kurt, Marc---it was a joke.
I personally don't think serving has jack to do with patriotism. There are a lot of ways to be patriotic (though I won't include "paying more taxes" in there...
Incidentally, that's exactly what I was thinking was the cause-- the recruit pool in UT is otherwise engaged a lot of times.
Gawsh.
I'm pretty sure you can joke in anything BUT a political or religious thread. Just my experience.