Red or Blue, what are you?

[Herzog]

I can't wait until after Nov 4th for these threads to stop.

 

[Tacoma]

Is that because the political or religious thread IS the joke, and all other attempts at humor fail?

I think you're right.

 

[Tacoma]

I can't wait until after Nov 4th for these threads to stop.

Then there will be more, "OH MY GOD I CAN"T BELIEVE _______ WON!! THE COUNTRY"S RUINED!!"


Maybe go on vacation for a week or two.

 

[waynehartwig]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

Come on Wayne You really believe he was elected to the Senate without being a US citizen? And highlighting Hussein does nothing......his father was from Africa (Alego, Kenya), not the Middle East. Slight difference.

You don't have to be a natural born US citizen to go into the senate, only as president. His father is a Kenyan citizen (even was married at the time and not to Barack Hussein Obama's mother) and was only in Hawaii on a student visa. He took his fathers name, not his mothers. If his mother gave up her custodial right as a parent - at birth, then Barack Hussein Obama is a natural born Kenyan citizen. The original birth certificate will say this on it, and Barack Hussein Obama will not disclose it. He's only disclosing a copy of one made last year and not the original. Thus only prooving that he is a citizen, not a natural born citizen.

 

[waynehartwig]

So basically, Mormonism is responsible for Utah's lack of patriotism? WTF!!!!


heheh

I'd about call a mission just as patriotic as serving in any branch of the armed forces. Most of those going on missions are going out to help people, not just trying to bring God into Godless homes... Sure, it's a part of it, but...

 

[cruiseroutfit]

Lol

 

[pfinder]

haha

Lol

now thats funny!!!

 

[waynehartwig]

Lol

Tru-dat!

 

[UNSTUCK]

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As for the whole "if you dont' vote you can't complain", well, in UT it doesn't matter much. .

Growing up in Alaska was even worse. If you didn't vote first thing in the morning before work, thinking you'd vote on your way home from work, you would already have a very good idea who would win before you even stepped in the box.

 

[waynehartwig]

I hear Barack Hussein Obama wasn't actually born a US Citizen! And that he didn't become a citizen until just last year. That's a little late, dontcha think?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

Come on Wayne You really believe he was elected to the Senate without being a US citizen? And highlighting Hussein does nothing......his father was from Africa (Alego, Kenya), not the Middle East. Slight difference.

You don't have to be a natural born US citizen to go into the senate, only as president. His father is a Kenyan citizen (even was married at the time and not to Barack Hussein Obama's mother) and was only in Hawaii on a student visa. He took his fathers name, not his mothers. If his mother gave up her custodial right as a parent - at birth, then Barack Hussein Obama is a natural born Kenyan citizen. The original birth certificate will say this on it, and Barack Hussein Obama will not disclose it. He's only disclosing a copy of one made last year and not the original. Thus only prooving that he is a citizen, not a natural born citizen.

Snopes could be wrong...
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/
Click on the numbers to the left to see the actual court documents.
Barack Hussein Obama has a lot of AKA's.... I know of three - his legal birth name (which was NOT Barack Hussein Obama), his name after his stepfather adopted him and his current name. The others I have no idea about...
No post is true without a video, so here it is...
[YOUTUBE]gA6_k3NtXZs[/YOUTUBE]

 

[GOAT]

Wow, spoken like a level headed and well respected intelligent person.....

The name calling is extremely pathetic and childish and only shows the true level of ones character.

Its simple, you have a right to vote, and a right not to vote. Not everyone gives a **** or has the time to sit around the tv and watch debates and ***** about America. Some of us are occupied by more important things in life like working, school, raising a family, etc. Not everyone has the time you must have to come to a clear decision on a vote. It doesnt make them less American. The same goes for people who decide to join the military. Just because others dont, doesnt make them less American either. Also you have to keep in mind that the people running for president often sell one thing, and never deliver it. They tell us things we want to hear for the vote, and it never comes to fruition.

I am pissing up a rope here and I dont know why, I really dont give a ****. This is why I hate talking religion and politics. People get all pissy and start insulting each other.

This is my last post, I am going to be a "moron" elsewhere.

I have never read any of your posts/threads, and didn't even know you were undecided (didn't care). Remember, its an offroad site, not like any of us neurosurgeons.

However, I still don't see what you are waiting for them to do, to "earn" your vote. If you are that undecided, you should have done some research and voted indy. At least you could used your concsience, instead of polls and soundbites to make a logical decision. I did a few times.

You can personally thank me for splitting a few votes in 92' (sarcasm).

 

[GOAT]

I'm surprised to see this even highlighted? But you act as if you don't know so I'll treat you as such

Utah has a higher percentage of LDS youth than any other state in the US. That said males age 19-25 are encouraged to serve missions and females age 21-27 are also encourage though seemingly not in the masses men are. 62% of recruits nationwide are under 22 years old.

Add to that with the low age of marriage here in Utah. Many 21 year old males (other states) are trying to do something with their lives, the military makes a great option, here in Utah the average 21 year old male is fresh off a mission and looking to get married ASAP or already supporting a wife and child. Not the typical candidate for the services.

Utah also has an higher than average high school graduation percentage, bachelor degree percentage and business owner percentage. All things I would attribute to the numbers especially given the DOD's lowering of entrance standards including a double in level IV recruits. Sometimes its about "quality" not "quantity" While Alabama has the highest percentage of recruitment, it has one of the lowest percentages of what the DOD calls "high quality" recruits. (I'm not making this up its in your link )

Anyone know where their definition of "youth" is? I couldn't find it anywhere on their site and I'm suspecting that actually has something to do with the numbers as well. Utah has a far higher percentage of "youth" under the age of 18 than most (all?) states (yeah big surprise I know ). So if their "youth" number is say 15-25 they Utah would lack in the overall numbers.

I am new to Utah, but old enough to understand how those statistics apply to this state

But really, does securing the dominance of a religion trump securing the sovereignty of our nation? Trustfund or not?(tounge in cheek)

On the bright side, as a missionary you have to pay to go overseas and be hated. The military will pay you to go overseas and be hated. Sounds like a win/win for all involved

 

[unltd1]

Hijack!!!!

I love Bill Hicks....

"Go back to bed, America. Your government has figured out how it all transpired. Go back to bed, America. Your government is in control again. Here. Here's American Gladiators. Watch this, shut up. Go back to bed, America. Here is American Gladiators. Here is 56 channels of it! Watch these pituitary retards bang their f-ing skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom. Here you go, America! You are free to do what we tell you! You are free to do what we tell you!"

"I'll show you politics in America. Here it is, right here. 'I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs.' 'I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking.' 'Hey, wait a minute, there's one guy holding out both puppets!' 'Shut up! Go back to bed, America. Your government is in control. Here's Love Connection. Watch this and get fat and stupid. By the way, keep drinking beer, you f-ing morons.' "

 

[unltd1]

Bill!!!!

"Your denial is beneath you, and thanks to the use of hallucinogenic drugs, I see through you."

 

[unltd1]

Bill Bill Bill!!!

Childbirth is no more a miracle then eating food and a turd coming out of your a**.

 

[unltd1]

Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill Bill!!!

"It's just a ride and we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings and money, a choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your door, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as one."

 

[unltd1]

He's not for everyone, but neither am I....

"Here is my final point. About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography and smoking and everything else. What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I f-, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?"

 

[Tacoma]

Thanks for 5 posts where 1 would have done nicely. Awesome.

 

[Spork]

He's not for everyone, but neither am I....

"Here is my final point. About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography and smoking and everything else. What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I f-, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?"

Wait a minute, I know you're left leaning but are you blind? Do you honestly believe one side tries to control you less than the other?

You last line has a whole debate in itself. "as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet". If that's the creed of the left why are they pro-abortion? If you just leave it alone then what does it become? Do you honestly believe drugs are an island to themselves? Meth is just a recreational outlet, Meth-heads are just misunderstood?

Bill Hicks is an idiot.

Childbirth is no more a miracle then eating food and a turd coming out of your a**.

and his point is? I would imagine it's some pro-something crap here. I don't go up there and get turds out before it's time.

"It's just a ride and we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings and money, a choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your door, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as one."

Is this where the anti-gun idea on the left comes from? I thought if I wasn't affecting anyone it was all good? Why does interferance with me when it comes to guns is a good thing and you on drugs is ok? It's not like I come to you're house and steal your drugs to buy my guns. This stupid quote just makes me scream "get a job hippie".

 

[waynehartwig]

Not sure who this Bill guy is, but it sounds like he's Obama's advisor or something