Safety Inspection laws *new and improved"

benjy

Rarely wrenches
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Location
Moab
I wish I would've known how seriously you're shopping, we could've gone for a spin in MaKenzie and that would've sold you on how much fun Power Strokes are. :chris:

Yes you should have! as of now we're leaning toward a dodge spank wagon or a chev 1ton4fun :rofl:
 

Greg

I run a tight ship... wreck
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Yes you should have! as of now we're leaning toward a dodge spank wagon or a chev 1ton4fun :rofl:

IMO... if you guys are really looking for a tow rig, don't forget to consider gasoline trucks. I came to the realization that I really didn't need a Dodge diesel as a tow rig. I wasn't towing a 15k pound 5th wheel, just a little Jeep and trailer that weighed under 6k pounds. The cost of fuel, maint, etc, etc, just wasn't worth it anymore.

If I ever need a tow rig again, I'm going to look hard at a Toyota Tundra, perhaps a Nissan Titan or a Chevy 1500. No need for a 1 Ton diesel when a 1/2 ton gas truck will do just fine & cost less. JMHO... :)

Oh, and just to relate this to the current thread... stock tires & mud flaps will keep the UHP from bothering you. ;)
 

RockMonkey

Suddenly Enthusiastic
I had a 3/4 ton gas truck that I thought would be fine for towing. It blew up the engine. Turns out towing my little 6k trailer was too much for it. To each his own, I guess. :)
 

Greg

I run a tight ship... wreck
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I had a 3/4 ton gas truck that I thought would be fine for towing. It blew up the engine. Turns out towing my little 6k trailer was too much for it. To each his own, I guess. :)

But it was a Ford, wasn't it? At least they circled the problem... :p

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Corban_White

Well-Known Member
Location
Payson, AZ
Wanna hear somethin stupid? Just for sheets and giggles, I called my friend who works at a testing station, just to see how rediculous this law is. My 2001 Ford Taurus came stock with 205/60/16's on it. Last time I replaced the tires, they had a less expensive, better tire in a 215/60/16, so I got them. Asked my buddy about my care being legal and needing mud flaps, and...............it may be legal, kinda, depending on who interpretes the law. My car does have bigger than stock tires on it, so legally, should have mud flaps now. However, it has a small extension of the plastic body trim, that hangs below the fender just a bit, like a permanent, built in flap. According to my testing station buddy, some officers may consider something like that to be a type of mud flap, while some, would say that it is just a piece of body trim, and that my car now needs flaps to comply with the law. The laws says I need mud flaps on my passenger car that already only sits 6" off the ground, even though about 60-70% of the tire is still inside the wheelwell? :confused: On to my truck. It's an '86 F250, no lift, cut fenders with bushwacker flares, and 315/75/16 BFG mudders. Legally it needs flaps because of the larger than stock tires. I have about 60% of the tire or so below the fender, but with no lift, it doesen't really look like it has that large of a tire. My brother has a '06 Dodge with stock 245/75/16 tires with no lift, although the rear of his truck is typical Dodge, sits pretty high is stock form. His truck from the factory has as much, if not more tire below the fender, than mine does, and came from the factory with no flares, but his is perfectly legal, cause he still has the stock tires on it. :mad: My buddy was laughin his butt off when I told him of this thread, and told me he has had quite a few people freak out on him when thier vehicles didnt pass for things like mud flaps and fender flares, which he can understand, but has to follow the law to keep his job.

The modification only requires flaps IF the body does not cover adequately (the top 50% of the tire according to the safety manual.)
 

Herzog

somewhat damaged
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Location
Wydaho
I've towed with lighter vehicles (probably same weight as a tundra)... I just can't talk myself into doing it again. :)
 

Greg

I run a tight ship... wreck
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I've towed with lighter vehicles (probably same weight as a tundra)... I just can't talk myself into doing it again. :)

I'm just over diesel Dodges after that POS '03. Almost $4k in repairs in 18 months and no end in sight.

A friend of mine had a 3/4 ton Chevy with a 6.0l, it was a great tow rig. I helped him move from Florida to UT towing 8k pounds and it pulled that trailer like it wasn't there. I'd strongly consider a truck like that as a replacement to a diesel truck.
 

Greg

I run a tight ship... wreck
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Hells yeah! There are few things in life quite as gratifying as towing 6,ooo+ pounds and blasting past some idiot on a hill and leaving them in a cloud of diesel smoke. Mmmmmm.....makes me smile just thinking about it. :)

Is that the same feeling as shelling out $4k for a new tranny? :p
 

Herzog

somewhat damaged
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Location
Wydaho
I'm just over diesel Dodges after that POS '03. Almost $4k in repairs in 18 months and no end in sight.

A friend of mine had a 3/4 ton Chevy with a 6.0l, it was a great tow rig. I helped him move from Florida to UT towing 8k pounds and it pulled that trailer like it wasn't there. I'd strongly consider a truck like that as a replacement to a diesel truck.

I keep saying, but I really wish I could get a tundra w/ a diesel. That would be so sweet.

I just went and priced some tundra's online... Damn they are expensive. I need to drop my dodge soon because I need more room behind the seats so I'm seriously looking for more options. I wouldn't mind going with another Cummins, but I'm not so sure I want what's wrapped around it. So far my options seem to be limited... a tundra test drive could change my mind though.
 

kake

Registered User
Location
Kaysville
I'm just over diesel Dodges after that POS '03. Almost $4k in repairs in 18 months and no end in sight.

A friend of mine had a 3/4 ton Chevy with a 6.0l, it was a great tow rig. I helped him move from Florida to UT towing 8k pounds and it pulled that trailer like it wasn't there. I'd strongly consider a truck like that as a replacement to a diesel truck.

In Greg's defense, we aren't comparing apples to apples as far a pulling power is concerned. I will put a gas motor up against a diesel. And then, I will put up a blown gas motor against a blown diesel (which they all are now).

Doesn't anyone remember how crappy those unturboed (is that a word) diesels were? It was the performance of those engines that caused them to take so long to catch on.

We are forgetting that these newer diesels are packing around turbos the size of my little 2000 Tundra motor and in some cases twin turbos! It's the turbo that really make them so impressive.

Now I will not argue the possiblities of a diesel far exceed those of a gas motor, but the only way to even the playing field is to give them both blowers and then make your decision. I think a newer supercharged (not even turbo'd) Tundra gets around 504 hp and 550 lbs of torque. Not bad for a gassy.

The thing I like about the diesels is they win the gas mileage war and SHOULD have a longer life span. It's the life of the drivetrain behind the motor that is the issue.

Finally, I lived in Europe for 4 years. It is sometimes hard to find a vehicle that runs on benzine. In many cases you couldn't tell a benzine motor from a diesel as far as smoothness and noise. I remember seeing my first Jeep Grand Cherokee with CRD and thinking it was sooo cool and couldn't wait until they imported them to the states. Here we are 6 years later and I am still waiting! Please don't bring up the Liberty.
 
Is that the same feeling as shelling out $4k for a new tranny? :p
Feel free to laugh at me for this, but by the time I finally got to pick up my truck, I hadn't really driven her for over a month and I was late to my hair appt so I was just so thrilled to have a truck with a working tranny that I signed all the paperwork, hugged the mechanic, and left my poor husband with the bill and flew out the door. :p

And smiled all the way to Durango! :greg:
 

Meat_

Banned
Location
Lehi
There's a reason that Semis don't come with huge gas motors anymore. Diesel motors are better suited for heavy continuos pulling, esp the inline motors. I love driving my Cummins, but a well built gasser is a blast to drive and can pull just fine on occation
 

BCGPER

Starting Another Thread
Location
Sunny Arizona
I guess you haven't heard that Caterpillar is getting out of the diesel OTR engine business?


Stay tuned for their new line of CNG powered trucks, or so rumor has it.
 

1993yj

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Location
Salt Lake
Cat is getting out of the business because the companies that they used to sell the engines to have decided to start making their own engines, not because they thought that the market was going away.
 
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