school me on Fox air shocks

minturn

Registered User
Hey looking for suspension ideas for my 75 bronco, I looked at these but I don't know anything about them....Can i use these with the weight of my bronco (351w/winch/fullbodied)? If I can, would these replace both my coils and shocks? How much lift would these provide? I'm clueless about these...

Thanks in advance,
Dan
 

chadschoon

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Location
lehi
i dont know much about these but i do no that they would replace both the shocks and the coils. for your ride height i think it depends on the amount of gas charge is in the shock, as long as the stiffness. i have heard you do not want these on something that would be taking alot of movement because they can heat up, but for a crawler they would work nice

not much to depend on here but it is what i have heard.

chad
 

Caleb

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Location
Riverton
chadschoon said:
i dont know much about these but i do no that they would replace both the shocks and the coils. for your ride height i think it depends on the amount of gas charge is in the shock, as long as the stiffness. i have heard you do not want these on something that would be taking alot of movement because they can heat up, but for a crawler they would work nice

not much to depend on here but it is what i have heard.

chad


...and how much movement is on a DD? ;) (not enough to heat up shocks much :D)

as long as they'll support the weight of your bronco then they would be fine. You can also get the 2.5" ones which will hold the weight of your bronco for sure. As Chad pointed out, the ride height is set by you, and it depends on a ton of different factors (size of shocks, amount of charge, location of mounting, etc). They will replace both your springs and shocks. I loved mine on my buggy, I think they would be sweet on a DD cause they are completely silent and ride silky smooth :cool:
 

Caleb

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Location
Riverton
Max Power said:
I have heard not to run them on a daily driver because they are pretty squirrely.


what do you mean by squirrley? Body roll can be handled with some nice sway bars, the other factors are a properly setup link suspension. I didn't run any sway bars on my buggy and it didn't feel squirrley at all...and I was surprised by how little body roll it had (I was expecting a ton)...ofcourse there would be more on a full bodied rig vs. a tube buggy.
 

Herzog

somewhat damaged
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Location
Wydaho
Fox Air shox would work quite well for a daily driver, in my opinion.

It just takes quite a bit of tuning to get them to how you want. You can't expect them to perform perfect out of the box.
 

Ohms

'Poser Wheeler
Herzog said:
Fox Air shox would work quite well for a daily driver, in my opinion.

It just takes quite a bit of tuning to get them to how you want. You can't expect them to perform perfect out of the box.

Thanks herzog. That is exactly right. Airshox (like anything 'universal' in this sport) are set to be tuned. You must tune them for them to be suitable. You can't take them right out of the box, bolt them on, and drive off. They must be setup. I prefer to order each set specifically setup for the vehicle (in unique applications) so we are closer to the right setup once installed. Takes a little longer to get them, but it sure helps in the end. We are compiling a list of tuning setups/weight/height.....ect....and will soon be ordering a boatload of already tuned Air Shocks ;)

This should help in situations like this.
 

kyojin

Registered User
Location
Herriman
FWIW - I've had some Fox Air Shox in the rear of my stretched TJ for about 4-5 months. My TJ is my DD. They handle great on road with my stock sway bar. Off road they are great with tons of travel. In the future I will probably get some 2.5's for the front. With F/R sway bars, body roll should be none existant. I drive like I did before I did the swap and don't notice any more/less.
 

Ohms

'Poser Wheeler
Air shox are definately alot less $$$ but they have their limitations. If you are planning on any high speed, long dirt road blasts, then I would highly recommend coil overs. They are limited due to the fact they do not have a remote reservoir for extra fluid and cooling. Coil Overs are more suited for applications where speed or prolonged 'prerunning' style wheelin is common. (See Badgers Cherokee for example) A light rockbuggy/vehicle built mostly for rock crawling is a perfect platform for Air Shox.

Cost of a coilover with dual rate kit $550-650
Cost of an Air Shock $215-240



It really depends on budget and expectations as to which suits you best!

Matt Holm
Outer Limit Motorsports
801-647-2935
 

XJEEPER

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Location
Highland Springs
Simple, but oftimes overlooked air shock tidbits:

*Limit straps-an aluminum shock eye, threading into a steel shaft will not be able to withstand the forces associated with excessive droop. The aluminum threads will fail.

*Adequate range of motion at mounting brackets-as with the above mentioned issue, the shock mounts must allow adequate range of motion so there is no bind at the mounts during articulation. See aluminum thread failure.

*Extended brakelines-if you are too daft to install limit straps, brakelines will only limit droop temporarily........at which point, they will prohibit stopping permanently.

*Driving your rig to the trail and wheeling with two broken front airshocks-don't be stupid, nobody would do this, right?

*Taking your rig back to the shop that botched the airshock installation the first time-the only reason you should show up there is to demand a refund for services inproperly rendered. If they screwed it up the first time, what makes you think they have the skills to fix it correctly? (Local Vendor name withheld )
 
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