SEIU Union Leaders outline May 2011 plan to destroy the US economy - caught on tape!

XJEEPER

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********EVERYONE NEEDS TO LISTEN TO THIS AUDIO***********

SEIU Union leaders are targeting the first week of May 2011 for a planned US economic collapse, in collaboration with community organizers across the nation.

Clearly defined strategy:

Disrupt and create economic uncertainty
Convince 500,000 US homeowners to refuse to pay their mortgages
Force banks to the edge of insolvency, again
Convince the public that there is “plenty of money”, it’s just in the wrong hands
Convince union members that their pension plans are at risk to gain support for the movement
Convince city and county governments to force banks to renegotiate lower interest rates on loans
Target a company to hate - J.P. Morgan Chase
Create civil disobedience
Use Madison, Wisconsin type protests to disrupt bank shareholder board meetings across the country


Clearly outlined goals:

Create economic and social chaos
Politically isolate
Economically isolate
Disrupt how businesses operate
Bring down the Stock Market
Collapse the US economy
Transform the US government -- Socialism



This entire plan is based on the Cloward and Piven Marxist strategy on how to overthrow an Capitalism and replace it with Socialism ---Documented

Partial audio - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvlvejSxBVQ&feature=player_embedded

Full audio - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgOEraouhxU&feature=player_embedded



President Obama clearly states that SEIU put him into power and SEIU’s agendas are his agenda’s and they must work together for a common goal.

His words, not mine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ1NJaCtIkM
 
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XJEEPER

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Gonna need lots of foil.......

I've been following this for a while and it just keeps getting creepier.

AFL-CIO Union President Richard Trumka, who received awards in December 2010 from the Communist Party USA, openly admits that he meets weekly with Obama and members of his Administration. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4NrT2oTQqE&feature=player_embedded

Community Organizing was the highlight of Obama’s resume. Karl Marx knew all about this. Community organization is the core of Communist Party USA and Socialist Party USA movement. Both are organizations are Obama supporters and both support and collaborate with Richard Trumka.

Community organizing is what got Obama elected, combining communities of Union members, special interest groups, Green worshipers, etc. for a common goal.

The Change in Obama's agenda is Fabain Socialism.

"..., advocates of social reconstruction have learned the lesson of Democracy, and know that it is through the slow and gradual turning of the popular mind to new principles that social reorganization bit by bit comes."


“ You Americans are so gullible. No, you won’t accept communism outright, but we’ll keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you’ll finally wake up and find you already have communism. We won’t have to fight you. We’ll so weaken your economy until you’ll fall like overripe fruit into our hands."

Communist Soviet leader-Nikita Khrushchev
 

ricsrx

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In the monthly union paper at the place of my employment they have it full of articles all along these same lines and flat out stating that Obama is the one and only to make all the unions philosophies come to fruition, all the conservatives are dropping out but the majority are conservatives and rely on the free ride the union provides or promises to provide.
 

GOAT

Back from the beyond
Location
Roanoke, VA
:rofl:this stuff is too good

The biggest thing driving people towards socialism is capitalism run a muck. Oddly, the examples of communism the masses seem to fear so much is actually totalitarianism. The world has not experienced true communism, as the inhabitants of this planet are unable to achieve or sustain it.
 

Herzog

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:rofl:this stuff is too good

The biggest thing driving people towards socialism is capitalism run a muck. Oddly, the examples of communism the masses seem to fear so much is actually totalitarianism. The world has not experienced true communism, as the inhabitants of this planet are unable to achieve or sustain it.

Lust for power seems to always get in the way.
 

GOAT

Back from the beyond
Location
Roanoke, VA
Clearly defined strategy:

Disrupt and create economic uncertainty (news agencies already do this daily)

Convince 500,000 US homeowners to refuse to pay their mortgages(are these the ones who cant already?)

Force banks to the edge of insolvency, again (they're deregulated with no oversight and will do it all by themselves...again)

Convince the public that there is “plenty of money”, it’s just in the wrong hands (it is in the wrong hands and getting worse by the day)

Convince union members that their pension plans are at risk to gain support for the movement (dunno, never been in a union and have no need for one in my life....personally)

Convince city and county governments to force banks to renegotiate lower interest rates on loans (about time)

Target a company to hate - J.P. Morgan Chase (why just one when there are so many?)

civil disobedience (is a damn good thing. your forefathers can attest to this)

Use Madison, Wisconsin type protests to disrupt bank shareholder board meetings across the country (you mean exercise your constitutional rights.....what the fawk:rolleyes: )



Transform the US government -- Socialism (this is my favorite one:rofl:

don't hold your breath
 

Stephen

Who Dares Wins
Moderator
********EVERYONE NEEDS TO LISTEN TO THIS AUDIO***********

SEIU Union leaders are targeting the first week of May 2011 for a planned US economic collapse, in collaboration with community organizers across the nation.

Clearly defined strategy:

Disrupt and create economic uncertainty
Convince 500,000 US homeowners to refuse to pay their mortgages
Force banks to the edge of insolvency, again
Convince the public that there is “plenty of money”, it’s just in the wrong hands
Convince union members that their pension plans are at risk to gain support for the movement
Convince city and county governments to force banks to renegotiate lower interest rates on loans
Target a company to hate - J.P. Morgan Chase
Create civil disobedience
Use Madison, Wisconsin type protests to disrupt bank shareholder board meetings across the country


Clearly outlined goals:

Create economic and social chaos
Politically isolate
Economically isolate
Disrupt how businesses operate
Bring down the Stock Market
Collapse the US economy
Transform the US government -- Socialism



This entire plan is based on the Cloward and Piven Marxist strategy on how to overthrow an Capitalism and replace it with Socialism ---Documented

Partial audio - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvlvejSxBVQ&feature=player_embedded

Full audio - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgOEraouhxU&feature=player_embedded



President Obama clearly states that SEIU put him into power and SEIU’s agendas are his agenda’s and they must work together for a common goal.

His words, not mine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ1NJaCtIkM

Gee, I seem to recall I have read this all someplace before...
Hasn't worked since 1848, isn't going to work now. Its a group of extremist dreaming about their version of Utopia. And I'll admit, a lot of what Marx and Engles said sounds pretty good. Hell, a lot of the stuff that got them all riled up a hundred and sixty years ago is gone now. We have defined work hours, child labor laws and safe, clean working conditions. I call those all wins!
But to think that a couple of hard core, committed communists or "community organizers" are going to be able to rally enough of the population to do what you outline is hogwash. And all this, "Obama is secretly a pinko commie trying to undermine the US!" is just flat out crazy. We still have a functioning republican government that is a long way from being colluded into the communist camp. If we want to go down this road, lets start talking about all those bible thumping tea party backed whack jobs that got elected the last go around. Thats every bit as scary as the community organizers.

“ You Americans are so gullible. No, you won’t accept communism outright, but we’ll keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you’ll finally wake up and find you already have communism. We won’t have to fight you. We’ll so weaken your economy until you’ll fall like overripe fruit into our hands."

Communist Soviet leader-Nikita Khrushchev

To place this quote in context; remember that Khrushchev is the one who denounced Stalin and the revolutionary rhetoric that when along with him. Once Khrushchev climbed to the top of the Party in 1957 he was bound and determined to have peaceful coexistence with the west and reform the USSR from a militaristic society to a functional, peaceful socialist alternative to what he saw as the oppressive capitalist west. His "New Look" foreign policy followed this. No longer was he looking to stoke the flames of revolution, but rather subtly suggest that there was a better alternative, as the above statement suggests.
Obviously he failed, and the Soviet Union failed. But he was correct in one respect, every rich democracy has slowly added more and more socialism to the mix. Is that bad? Depends on your ideology. Is it going to lead us down the path to destruction? Probably not. Europe, for all its problems, ain't half bad and they have a hell of a lot more socialism in the water than over here.
 
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XJEEPER

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Location
Highland Springs
Hope you are right about that, believe me.

Those "couple of committed community organizers" equal the largest unions in the US, which got Obama elected. NEA, SEIU, AFL-CIO, ACORN........

His words, their words, not mine. Did you even take the time to listen to the audio?

What do you think "fundamentally transform the United States of America" actually means?

We are already down the road, no less than 83 members of Congress are members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, which shares the agendas and has the full support of the Democratic Socialists of America.
http://www.americanthinker.com/prin...g/2011/03/democratic_socialists_of_ameri.html

AFL-CIO Union President Richard Trumka, who received awards in December 2010 from the Communist Party USA, openly admits that he meets weekly with Obama and members of his Administration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4NrT2oTQqE&feature=player_embedded

Community Organizing was the highlight of Obama’s resume. Karl Marx knew all about this. Community organization is the core of Communist Party USA and Socialist Party USA movement. Both are Obama supporters and pawns, just as they are for and with Richard Trumka. Community organizing is what got Obama elected, combines communities of Union members, special interest groups, Green worshipers, etc for a common goal.

The Change in Obama's agenda is Fabain Socialism.

"..., advocates of social reconstruction have learned the lesson of Democracy, and know that it is through the slow and gradual turning of the popular mind to new principles that social reorganization bit by bit comes."


Please provide some data to support your opinion, it lends credibility to your statements.
 

GOAT

Back from the beyond
Location
Roanoke, VA
Hope you are right about that, believe me.

Those "couple of committed community organizers" equal the largest unions in the US, which got Obama elected. NEA, SEIU, AFL-CIO, ACORN........

His words, their words, not mine. Did you even take the time to listen to the audio?

What do you think "fundamentally transform the United States of America" actually means?

We are already down the road, no less than 83 members of Congress are members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, which shares the agendas and has the full support of the Democratic Socialists of America.
http://www.americanthinker.com/prin...g/2011/03/democratic_socialists_of_ameri.html

AFL-CIO Union President Richard Trumka, who received awards in December 2010 from the Communist Party USA, openly admits that he meets weekly with Obama and members of his Administration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4NrT2oTQqE&feature=player_embedded

Community Organizing was the highlight of Obama’s resume. Karl Marx knew all about this. Community organization is the core of Communist Party USA and Socialist Party USA movement. Both are Obama supporters and pawns, just as they are for and with Richard Trumka. Community organizing is what got Obama elected, combines communities of Union members, special interest groups, Green worshipers, etc for a common goal.

The Change in Obama's agenda is Fabain Socialism.

"..., advocates of social reconstruction have learned the lesson of Democracy, and know that it is through the slow and gradual turning of the popular mind to new principles that social reorganization bit by bit comes."


Please provide some data to support your opinion, it lends credibility to your statements.

dammit ive been so busy waiting for this whole Y2k thing to take place, i missed this. i hear the computers will crash. better stock up on supplies.
 

Stephen

Who Dares Wins
Moderator
Please provide some data to support your opinion, it lends credibility to your statements.

Right... Well when I get home I'll provide you with a bibliography for my statements.
While we all wait for that, would you please produce some scholarly articles to back up your statements rather than just some home brew YouTube videos and articles from right wing bloggers who are just spouting rhetoric. I'd like to see some serious research on what you are claiming is about to happen. It adds credibility to your statements, after all.
 

DOSS

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Stephen.. you know you could always just start your own blog and refer to that so that you could provide data from a source outside of RME :)
 

XJEEPER

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Location
Highland Springs
March 23, 2011

The Honorable Eric H. Holder, Jr.
Attorney General

U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20530-0001

Dear Attorney General Holder:

Recent media reports suggest that the former director of the Service Employees International Union’s (“SEIU”) banking and finance campaign has threatened to seriously endanger the welfare of the United States. In a forum at Pace University earlier this month, Stephen Lerner, the former SEIU official, revealed a “secret plan” to “cause a new financial crisis . . . destroy J.P. Morgan . . . and weaken Wall Street’s grip on power” by using “civil disobedience” to create “the conditions necessary for a redistribution of wealth and a change in government.”

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”) defines terrorism as “the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.”

The escalation of Mr. Lerner’s threats would clearly constitute domestic terrorism and pose substantial harm to the American people and the economy. I am therefore requesting that you investigate Mr. Lerner’s terrorist plans and notify me how the Department of Justice plans to respond to these threats.

The Committee on Oversight and Government Reform is the principal oversight committee of the House of Representatives and may at “any time” investigate “any matter” as set forth in House Rule X. An attachment to this letter provides additional information about responding to the Committee’s request.

If you have any questions regarding this request, please do not hesitate to contact [redacted]. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely,
_______________________
Jason Chaffetz
cc: The Honorable Darrell Issa, Chairman
cc: The Honorable Elijah E. Cummings, Ranking Minority Member


Guess folks much smarter than me see this for what it is as well. Truth has no agenda.
 

Stephen

Who Dares Wins
Moderator
March 23, 2011

The Honorable Eric H. Holder, Jr.
Attorney General

U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20530-0001

Dear Attorney General Holder:

Recent media reports suggest that the former director of the Service Employees International Union’s (“SEIU”) banking and finance campaign has threatened to seriously endanger the welfare of the United States. In a forum at Pace University earlier this month, Stephen Lerner, the former SEIU official, revealed a “secret plan” to “cause a new financial crisis . . . destroy J.P. Morgan . . . and weaken Wall Street’s grip on power” by using “civil disobedience” to create “the conditions necessary for a redistribution of wealth and a change in government.”

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”) defines terrorism as “the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.”

The escalation of Mr. Lerner’s threats would clearly constitute domestic terrorism and pose substantial harm to the American people and the economy. I am therefore requesting that you investigate Mr. Lerner’s terrorist plans and notify me how the Department of Justice plans to respond to these threats.

The Committee on Oversight and Government Reform is the principal oversight committee of the House of Representatives and may at “any time” investigate “any matter” as set forth in House Rule X. An attachment to this letter provides additional information about responding to the Committee’s request.

If you have any questions regarding this request, please do not hesitate to contact [redacted]. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely,
_______________________
Jason Chaffetz
cc: The Honorable Darrell Issa, Chairman
cc: The Honorable Elijah E. Cummings, Ranking Minority Member


Guess folks much smarter than me see this for what it is as well. Truth has no agenda.

This is a letter from a Representative siting his view that what the SEIU want to do is wrong (I'm not debating that the SEIU is crazy, they are), but this is hardly what I would call "truth".
Again, if you really have cold hard facts that a dictatorship of the proletarian is about to be established in the US, please provide us with them. Until then, like every sensationalized, fear mongering article like this that has come up since the Red Scare of the 1920's, I'll just take it with a grain of salt and wait to see what happens.
Of course, as the Manifesto dictates, the Revolution should happen in one of the worlds most industrialized nations... ;)
 
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