Side effects of a clogged cat?

Cody

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What would the potential side effects be of a clogged catylitic converter and during what type of driving conditions would they be most obvious?
 

Rusted

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Loss of power, drop in gas mileage, and sometimes you don't get all of your RPM's. Usually problems are at higher speeds. Like you lost all of your passing power.
 

78mitsu

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depending on the severity,

No accelleration up hill.

if you put a piece of paper next to the exhaust pipe and rev the engine it won't show much flow.

Cat glowing Cherry red catching stuff on fire.

The test for a catalytic converter is to drill a hole in the exhaust in front of the cat and behind and measure the pressure at both points, there should be a differential, but a high differential while the engine revvs is the giveaway.

yank the cat off knock out it's guts and put it back on, works for me. (unless you have to meet emissions)
 

Cody

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well, my rig is gutless, but on the freeway it really overheats. On the trail--no problem. But if I try and push it on the freeway it will get 250* pretty quick and I'm tired of running with the heater on to keep it to a more manageable 240*. I've flushed the coolant and put in a new 180* t-stat. Still same problems.

I'm trying to think of problems that would only cause over heating at higher rpm's/load such as the freeway.

Fan clutch? Water Pump? Bad radiator?

I would think all of those would cause overheating at any rpm's--especially on the trail in 100+ degree heat. But it runs just fine in those situations. so I'm kind of thinking that maybe the coolant system is working ok, but the engine is producing too much heat--more than the coolant system is designed for--so what could cause that?

I have a free flow cat and it's only a year old. when I had the exhaust redone after the long arms the exhaust guy said the cat was bad--but I told him to put it back on because it was new and I didn't think it could be that bad.....but maybe it's causing my problem?
 

Rusted

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Have you checked your engine compression? Bad compression would both hurt your power and will make your engine work harder therefore overheating.
 

78mitsu

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at speed your fan shouldn't be locked/on the speed of the air going through the radiator should be enough to cool it.
Do you have a shroud on your radiator?

Could be a suction problem, a bad lower radiator hose can collapse, since you are holding your rig at a higher RPM it will be more evident then when you wheel and the RPM varies.

it could be a cat, but unlikely, have you noticed a drop in power/acceleration? (more then the ordinary 4.0)
 

Cody

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no. don't have a clue how to do that. I know I have a pretty good oil leak that only leaks a lot when the vehicle is running. Drops right onto the exhaust where it comed down under the motor. Not sure if that is useful information.
 

Herzog

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It's really easy and cheap to have a exhaust shop do a back-pressure check on your exhaust system to see if the cat is bad / clogged up. The last time I had it done it was free...
 

Cody

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at speed your fan shouldn't be locked/on the speed of the air going through the radiator should be enough to cool it.
Do you have a shroud on your radiator?

Could be a suction problem, a bad lower radiator hose can collapse, since you are holding your rig at a higher RPM it will be more evident then when you wheel and the RPM varies.

it could be a cat, but unlikely, have you noticed a drop in power/acceleration? (more then the ordinary 4.0)

It's always been gutless, bit it didn't seem any more gutless than some other 4.0 ZJ's with 4.56's and 35's I've run with recently. In fact, I was the only one to get up a couple of dunes out of the group so maybe it does a little better?

I'm thinking I may drop it off and have Dennis at T+ take a look at it. I think he's pretty knowledgable about the 4.0's.
 

DaveB

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Another test to perform is a check to make sure the engine doesn't have an exhaust leak exhaust into the coolant from a head gasket leak. This kind of leak will cause it to overheat also. A radiator shop like JMac can do the test. Also make sure you don't have any air pockets in the coolant. My ZJ with a 4.0 never goes that high on the temps.
 

Bart

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It could be a combination of problems, and I think you're on the right track. After it's fixed I'd drop another 210 thermostat in though. Those 4.0s are made to run at that temp and will not close the loop until it's close to 210.
 

mbryson

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It could be a combination of problems, and I think you're on the right track. After it's fixed I'd drop another 210 thermostat in though. Those 4.0s are made to run at that temp and will not close the loop until it's close to 210.


I'm with Bart on the T-stat.
 

DevinB

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As dumb as it sounds, try a new radiator cap too. My family's van was having the same problems and dealership tried everything to get it to stop overheating. Hundreds of dollars later, someone figured out it was a cap that wasn't sealing properly.
 

Cody

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As dumb as it sounds, try a new radiator cap too. My family's van was having the same problems and dealership tried everything to get it to stop overheating. Hundreds of dollars later, someone figured out it was a cap that wasn't sealing properly.

interesting. I've heard that twice now. Worth a shot.
 
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