anderson750
I'm working on it Rose
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I will be at a race in Johnson Valley this weekend, it will be interesting to see what the enforcement looks like.
Political So now what
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They better bring half of the national guard if they are going to try to enforce masks on that crowd ha ha
xjtony
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I deleted mine a couple of years ago and it was one of the best choices I've made in a long time.
lhracing
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"UNITY" by Executive Order...
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- West Haven, UT
Only POTUS Joe was walking around the Lincoln memorial today without a mask. Maybe its just an indoor thing
Went and read the EO - "Section 1 (para 2) Accordingly, to protect the Federal workforce and individuals interacting with the Federal workforce, and to ensure the continuity of Government services and activities, on-duty or on-site Federal employees, on-site Federal contractors, and other individuals in Federal buildings and on Federal lands should all wear masks, maintain social distance, and adhere to other public health measures, as provided in CDC guidelines." Two key parts "should" and "Federal lands"
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There are privacy coins like Monero where the ledger is not public. Bitcoin was of course never meant to be untraceable.
Houndoc
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I thought this take was an interesting one, with some concrete proposals on reform.
A conservative’s case for optimism - The Boston Globe
A conservative’s case for optimism - The Boston Globe
Started losing me on the 3rd sentence. Couldn't be bothered to read anymore after the BS written in the 6th paragraph
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Him endorsing Mitt.... author is Evan McMullin... notmycandidate
he does make a couple of ok points but I disagree with his tone for sure. Personally, the “appeal” of someone like orange man bad is that he is NOT a politician. He had to go back to constitutional principles which he did so to a degree. He’s such a flawed character and the press preyed upon any/every misstep that now he’s vilified by the press. He did some good things as President. Middle East peace agreements, stood up to the Chinese and others in the interests of America, and did things in the interests of the nation. He’s a total idiot in many ways and that’s why he’s lost.
I think he had 78 million votes? Uncle Joe had 84 million (aren’t those the reported numbers?). There are a LOT of people that believed the Trumpster was a better candidate than a career leech, err politician. Personally, I’d like a LOT more business type people in politics. Get rid of the career bloodsuckers on both sides of the aisle. The establishment has to go or reform themselves (ha!!! Can’t ever happen)
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Mitt Romney can suck my tailpipe. And I mean my trucks tailpipe. Britney is too good for him.
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- Riverton, UT
Right on Spork.
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- Riverton, UT
I was born a democrat, changed to Republican when I voted for Reagan, and changed to an Independent when the first Bush was elected. I have voted for the person that had a chance of being elected that was the least of two evils.
Democrats and Republicans are just titles given to the same politically bent persons that choose a party to get elected. They are now all Totalitarians or as Aristotle defined Tyranny "the rule of one person or of a small group of people which became possible because modern science and technology". In other words controlled press, science (carbon, Covid, environmental climate change, and politicians that want to stay in power.
I would rather be controlled "by the people" that have not been Indoctrinated by the schools, government, and the press
Democrats and Republicans are just titles given to the same politically bent persons that choose a party to get elected. They are now all Totalitarians or as Aristotle defined Tyranny "the rule of one person or of a small group of people which became possible because modern science and technology". In other words controlled press, science (carbon, Covid, environmental climate change, and politicians that want to stay in power.
I would rather be controlled "by the people" that have not been Indoctrinated by the schools, government, and the press
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I thought this from the Editors of National Review was quite timely:
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High among the things American conservatism seeks to conserve is our country’s political inheritance from our founding, an inheritance that makes it possible for us to be a free, prosperous, decent, and self-governing society.
That work is unending and sometimes arduous — because the inheritance is complex and often misunderstood, because the threats to it are many and varied, and because conservation is rarely reducible to resisting change. Our claim is not that the Founders were perfect but that they were wise, and that we need to fit the times to the Constitution more than the other way around.
Constitutional government is betrayed when the public is asked not to consult with experts but to submit to them. Or when courts deny our system’s foundational premise that all men are created equal in their basic rights. Or, as we have recently seen, when a mob seeks to intimidate legislators into forgetting their duties.
Our political debates are often necessarily contentious, but they must remain only metaphorically battles. Different stripes of conservatives can have productive arguments with one another about how to help families flourish, what the proper bounds of government are, and who should lead the Republican Party. But that debate must not partake of conspiratorial fantasies, and lawless violence must never be on the table. We must strive, against all demagogues, to make our reason the master and not the servant of our passions.
The spirit of republican deliberation is already too frail in our times. Our fellow citizens doubt one another’s good intent and capacity for self-government. Even conservatives are tempted to give up the defense of the Constitution, which would leave it friendless and dying. Nothing, at such a moment, can sound more naïve than a call for Americans to rededicate ourselves to our patrimony. Nothing is more essential.
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High among the things American conservatism seeks to conserve is our country’s political inheritance from our founding, an inheritance that makes it possible for us to be a free, prosperous, decent, and self-governing society.
That work is unending and sometimes arduous — because the inheritance is complex and often misunderstood, because the threats to it are many and varied, and because conservation is rarely reducible to resisting change. Our claim is not that the Founders were perfect but that they were wise, and that we need to fit the times to the Constitution more than the other way around.
Constitutional government is betrayed when the public is asked not to consult with experts but to submit to them. Or when courts deny our system’s foundational premise that all men are created equal in their basic rights. Or, as we have recently seen, when a mob seeks to intimidate legislators into forgetting their duties.
Our political debates are often necessarily contentious, but they must remain only metaphorically battles. Different stripes of conservatives can have productive arguments with one another about how to help families flourish, what the proper bounds of government are, and who should lead the Republican Party. But that debate must not partake of conspiratorial fantasies, and lawless violence must never be on the table. We must strive, against all demagogues, to make our reason the master and not the servant of our passions.
The spirit of republican deliberation is already too frail in our times. Our fellow citizens doubt one another’s good intent and capacity for self-government. Even conservatives are tempted to give up the defense of the Constitution, which would leave it friendless and dying. Nothing, at such a moment, can sound more naïve than a call for Americans to rededicate ourselves to our patrimony. Nothing is more essential.
“Rep. Pramila Jayapal, who chairs the left-leaning Congressional Progressive Caucus, told Politico in an online interview that $1.9 trillion should be the floor for COVID-19 relief spending, not a ceiling.
Her caucus, which represents more than 90 of the House's 221 Democrats, wants the package to include a minimum wage hike to $15 an hour, a path to citizenship for essential workers who are immigrants and auto-enrollment in public health insurance plans for the uninsured.
"We should think of this in terms of the needs of people, not in terms of the dollar amounts," Jayapal said.
She and other Democratic lawmakers including Rep. Ilhan Omar have called for recurring payments to U.S. households instead of the one-time $1,400 check the Biden administration has included in its proposal.”
Long quote for context but after reading it scares me that this could be a sneak to “universal income” BS thesocialist sorry Democratic Party is pushing.
Her caucus, which represents more than 90 of the House's 221 Democrats, wants the package to include a minimum wage hike to $15 an hour, a path to citizenship for essential workers who are immigrants and auto-enrollment in public health insurance plans for the uninsured.
"We should think of this in terms of the needs of people, not in terms of the dollar amounts," Jayapal said.
She and other Democratic lawmakers including Rep. Ilhan Omar have called for recurring payments to U.S. households instead of the one-time $1,400 check the Biden administration has included in its proposal.”
Long quote for context but after reading it scares me that this could be a sneak to “universal income” BS the
anderson750
I'm working on it Rose
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Overall the D party has move hard socialist, but I believe there are enough people in the party to oppose some of this stuff to keep it from moving forward in the manner that it is being proposed. The AOC's, Omars and such are over playing their hand and I see it costing them big in the midterm election.
I think we need to start a side bet on the future of Mittens and who might primary him in 3 years. I expect some noise to start prior to the midterms elections.
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I'd still be okay with him accepting a cabinet position with Biden. Can't get rid of him fast enough.
Noahfecks
El Destructo!
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You assume that we will still have elections where we choose from candidates that have competing viewpoints, not just left and lefterer.
Interesting read, hope that a legitimate third party comes out of it.
www.deseret.com
Also in the 37sec of impeachment circus I could tolerate to look at, I love how the dem machine is aware of what the word "riot" is and more than happy to label Jan 6th. But must have escaped their vocabulary all of last year. Damn joke.
Poll: Trump voters can’t be reduced to a stereotype
People who voted for Barack Obama and Mitt Romney in 2012 came together to vote for Trump on these issues
www.deseret.com
Also in the 37sec of impeachment circus I could tolerate to look at, I love how the dem machine is aware of what the word "riot" is and more than happy to label Jan 6th. But must have escaped their vocabulary all of last year. Damn joke.
johngottfredson
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I agree, it's such a drag having an adult in the room. Politics is more fun when it's mostly chair throwing.