Political So now what

[jackjoh]

Everyone believes that Trump is an egotistical ass that loved the country. Get over it.
The 2nd impeachment farce will soon end with another not guilty just like the Russian Collusion.
The 2nd impeachment trial did a lot to expose the hypocrisy of the "get Trump" group.
Prediction; Pence will be our next president.
We need to fight (not kill, murder, riot) to keep PL-166-9 (even though it was a bad bargain) from being weakened.
We need to make congress responsible for making laws not the president or judiciary.

 

[xjtony]

Prominent anti-Trump Republicans reject 3rd party

A group of former Republican officials considering a new center-right political party to counter former President Donald Trump's influence would face steep challenges in shaking up a U.S. political system that has favored two-party rule throughout its history.

www.ksl.com

This is the kind of article that frustrates me. The 2 party system at its finest. Vote for us or "they" win. The system is designed to devide the county . I honestly think that a third party formed from centralists pulled from both sides could do a lot for our country, but its a leap of faith thats hard for most people to take.

 

[TRD270]

The 2nd impeachment farce will soon end

Not so fast, the farce continues! Can’t wait to see what hearsay these “witnesses” will testify to. The circus continues

US Senate acquits Trump of inciting deadly Capitol riot, McConnell rebukes ex-president

The U.S. Senate has acquitted former President Donald Trump on one article of impeachment, rejecting the House's charge of incitement of insurrection.

www.ksl.com

 

[cruiseroutfit]

As predicted, the Utah 4x4 community will lose to this new administration.

 

[Hickey]

 

[Hickey]

 

[cruiseroutfit]

Let me find my surprised face

 

[jeeper]

 

[Houndoc]

Prominent anti-Trump Republicans reject 3rd party

A group of former Republican officials considering a new center-right political party to counter former President Donald Trump's influence would face steep challenges in shaking up a U.S. political system that has favored two-party rule throughout its history.

www.ksl.com

This is the kind of article that frustrates me. The 2 party system at its finest. Vote for us or "they" win. The system is designed to devide the county . I honestly think that a third party formed from centralists pulled from both sides could do a lot for our country, but its a leap of faith thats hard for most people to take.

It is unfortunate that too many people think we are somehow locked into only Democrat or Republican as our party options. The Republicans became a major party at the expense of the previous ones.

I do think the Republican Party will either have to deliberately shed the far right/Q-Anon/Trumpist wing or the moderates will leave the party with the majority of that migrating to the Democrats unless there is a real movement to form a new, centrist party (which as quick as I would be to join I don't see happening.)

Loosing a strong center-right voice on issues such as Second Amendment, land use etc will not be good in the long run and a stronger center will make long-term solutions to divisive issues like immigration much easier to solve through compromise.

 

[Coco]

If Trump runs again as an independent/*insert other than dem/rep here*, I think that is when a third party will get some steam.

 

[Houndoc]

If Trump runs again as an independent/*insert other than dem/rep here*, I think that is when a third party will get some steam.

I don't see a third party built around Trump having a lasting impact, other than allowing the GOP to move back towards the center. Other third party/independent campaigns built around an individual (think Ross Perot) lack staying power.

 

[Herzog]

Today I learned that I’m an extremist for wanting the country to follow the constitution and for wanting justice against ruling pedophile elite class. Cool. I guess it’s an honor.

 

[Coco]

I'll be that extremist right by you Shane.

 

[TRD270]

Today I learned that I’m an extremist for wanting the country to follow the constitution and for wanting justice against ruling pedophile elite class. Cool. I guess it’s an honor.

Fascist! Nazi! Racist!

Also had pretty much the same thing posted, but I deleted because I’m over explaining myself and love of the founding principles of this country to people that have a blind hatred for someone as a person and can’t look past that.

 

[johngottfredson]

wanting justice against ruling pedophile elite class.

Pretty much the most epic conspiracy storyline. "What, you disagree with me? You must support pedophilia."

 

[Stephen]

Pretty much the most epic conspiracy storyline. "What, you disagree with me? You must support pedophilia."

When someone retorts with the "pedophile ruling class" theory, its time to pick up your beer and move to another table.

 

[johngottfredson]

When someone retorts with the "pedophile ruling class" theory, its time to pick up your beer and move to another table.

I disagree. That's the fun table! Trumpism is low on principle but VERY high on entertainment.

 

[Stephen]

I disagree. That's the fun table! Trumpism is low on principle but VERY high on entertainment.

Fair enough. But I think you'll probably need to switch from beer to something a bit stronger to keep your brain from trying to think too much.

 

[TRD270]

Pretty much the most epic conspiracy storyline. "What, you disagree with me? You must support pedophilia."

Just like if I don’t support black lives matter I’m a nazi racist fascist right?

I don’t buy into the pedophile thing but tomato tomato both sides hurl garbage arguments at each other

 

[Hickey]

Just like if I don’t support black lives matter I’m a nazi racist fascist right?

I don’t buy into the pedophile thing but tomato tomato both sides hurl garbage arguments at each other

This. When you start generalizing people as "Trumpers" or writing people's opinions off as "Trumpism" you lose credibility with me.