I don't know what you guys are talking about, but it's not gonna take half and hour or any minivans. There is one spot that has snow covering the road sometimes until late in the summer. It's not a good road. I was on it three weeks ago, and theres parts that are pretty rough. Nothing difficult, but it'll slow you down (sharp rocks) and eliminate the minivans. I had to bypass snow once, and it would have been tough for any un modified 4x4 and impossible for a two wheel driver. WE only got half way, there was a truck stuck or abandoned in a snowy area. Snow was covering half the road making it only wide enough for one vehicle, and somebody got scared in some deep holes and ruts and just abandoned a truck right there, so we had to turn around. That was just after saddle on the south end. The trail is about 20 miles long from provo canyon to hobble creek canyon, maybe 15. With the rain lately, i'm sure its muddy, but that may have helped wash out some of the snow. I would plan for a good four hours and not expect it to be a normal dirt road.
