The Mushroom Factory

[Cody]

He has no end game. He doesn't want to sell the stuff, he just wants to hear himself talk about some fake conspiracy.

If he wanted to sell the stuff he would put his money where his mouth is. But he refuses to, which raises the largest red flag on the planet.

 

[bryson]

You want me to prove and test this stuff, why? it has been done, I am a grease monkey not a engineer, Not a inventor, but with my background in general mechanical repair, It was quite apparent that this design was engineered for a fluid lube,.

Until you prove and test it, nobody is going to believe you. That is a simple fact, and until you understand that simple fact, you are destined to be laughed at and booted off of internet forums everywhere. If it has been proven, we'd all love to see it. The only conspiracy here is that you can't/won't/have yet to prove your theories.

As much as I doubt you are in the same boat as Magellan (pun intended...?) nobody believed the Earth was round until he sailed around it...

So hop off of your soapbox, hop into your dingy, and start sailing buddy!

 

[Tacoma]

You want me to prove and test this stuff, why? it has been done, I am a grease monkey not a engineer, Not a inventor, but with my background in general mechanical repair, It was quite apparent that this design was engineered for a fluid lube,.


Put up or shut up. You go on and on about how brainwashed everyone is, but have offered absolutely nothing to disprove a damn thing. At best that's really irritating, at worst it's lazy and self-aggrandizing.


You see I talk to folks in the real world about this, Grease specialists, Final drive specialist, folks who have been working with these axles all their life, and they understand. , So I have concluded that this is a on line problem

I am in the process of getting all of this info to various magazines, so soon this info from the real world will get on here, sooner or later,

Why wait? Do your fellow man a great service and clear up the confusion RIGHT NOW, instead of waiting for the magazines to do it for you... and btw, interesting choice of outlet, magazines-- don't they take sponsor money? Aren't they just huge market-driven collaborators? I mean, if it's a conspiracy, do you really say out of the one side of your mouth that say, "Toyota 4wd Owner" is going to publish that? You can't have it both ways, Frank. YOU ARE PART OF THE "PROBLEM"


Every one knows this except for the brainwashed Toyota fan,
Sorry but thats how it is, sooner or later some one will step out of this cool- aid line

If this is true, then the information should be ALLLLL over the place, right? Since everyone knows it. Again, why the silence on YOUR part? What is the correct substance for Birfield lube?

I don't know you from Adam, except by what you've said so far. If you know something, why are you waiting for a magazine to back you up? If it's common knowledge except to Toyota fans, why is it an issue?

You come off as disingenuous. My growing dislike for you isn't because I'm a brainwashed Toyotard (and btw the Toy guys I know personally are pretty knowledgeable so far), it's because you keep saying "I know a secret... but you wouldn't understand, look at me! I am being persecuted". No, you're an asshat that likes attention but offers very little actual substance. You show me something better, you tell me something true, I am ALL EARS, as I believe most people on at least RME are, and probably most people anywhere. Get over yourself.

Until you prove and test it, nobody is going to believe you. That is a simple fact, and until you understand that simple fact, you are destined to be laughed at and booted off of internet forums everywhere. If it has been proven, we'd all love to see it. The only conspiracy here is that you can't/won't/have yet to prove your theories.

As much as I doubt you are in the same boat as Magellan (pun intended...?) nobody believed the Earth was round until he sailed around it...

So hop off of your soapbox, hop into your dingy, and start sailing buddy!

Well put, ninja. I especially liked that last part.

 

[Tranny Frank]

The Farmer

A traveling grease salesman swings into a farm and tells the farmer "Hey I have this grease that stands up to extreme pressure and shock, I will show you let me see some of the stuff you have been using,

Farmer pulls out his tube of grease and the salesman puts some on the vice and smacks it with a hammer and it splatters every where,

Salesman take his grease does the same thing and it stays put,
Farmer says wow thats cool I will buy 3 cases of that,

A year goes by a different sales guy comes buy with the same pitch, Farmer gives him some of fist guys grease, smacks it and it splatters everywhere,

Farmer wised up real quick and ran him off the farm. You see if you angle the hammer just right the grease will splatter, if you hit it dead on it stays put,

only thing different here is you guys never had the other salesman show up and your using a grease that is nothing special, just been snookered,

 

[Tacoma]

Show us the special grease then.

 

[Tranny Frank]

Novak Adapt

http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/steering_knuckle_repair.htm

Also read toyota core axle thread on this site

 

[SAMI]

...gives him some of fist guys grease, smacks it and it splatters everywhere,

Wait.. what?

 

[Grim]

what is the NLGI raiting on that ? is it a lithium base ? does it have any moly in it ? if so what %? for $8.50 a LB , is that synthetic?
Jardine Petoleum in NSL sale a lithium base , NLGI #0 or #1 in a 35lb pail (5gal) for $99.60, made by ConocoPhillips

 

[Cody]

I have this stuff called Sodium Silicate that you can use in place of your motor oil. It was actually used by the chinese in the Chang dynasty as the miracle oil but has since been covered up by a international conspiracy since it's less expensive than conventional motor oils. It's a huge conspiracy Frank, but I'd be happy to give you some to try in your own vehicle. Everyone who has used it has reported such a drastic change in engine lubrication, that the motor literally appears to go silent. It's amazing stuff that you should use in all of your vehicles.


Look guys, he has no interest in providing any evidence his goop works. He has no interest in showing any real world testing. He has no interest in us helping him gain the respect he seems to want. He has no desire to sell lube. He just wants to hear himself talk and feel like someone is listening. If we ignore him, he'll go away.

 

[Kris K]

If I put some of this special grease in my engine would it make it last longer?? What about my tranny would it make it shift better?? It's a toyota???

 

[Tacoma]

Wait.. what?

heh.. Freudian slip I hope.


Frank, I read both of the links you reference, and still fail to see your point. Mystery lube is spec'ed in both cases. I say again, you are part of the problem, in that you refuse to divulge the key to stopping the brainwashing. At least lube companies/OEM's have a vested interest in staying tight-lipped: to wit, $68/gal lube. As you have neither told us what this mystery lube really is, nor shown us the superior lube that you yourself should be selling, I have to conclude that you're just an asshat without anything to really offer but pot-stirring conspiracy theory and no actual information on the topic.

If that's untrue, I stand to be disabused of that notion, and will happily be so. But like I said, evidence is entirely to the contrary.

 

[Tranny Frank]

What is it??

What it is a #0 sodium based grease, a semi fluid, used in areas that are prone to leakage, and where high service intervals can be obtained

Aside from that the MSDS sheets indicate 80% proprietary base oil,
5% proprietary moly additives, and no indication of what the other 15% of the stuff is,

Intellectual property, or Trade secret, so yep Secret grease for your Yotas
go figer, but as a general rule these things go for 30 years if you leave them alone, Just like Kurt said,
Why Toyota wont tell you , ask them, I tried. "Privacy Act"

 

[Cody]

What it is a #0 sodium based grease, a semi fluid, used in areas that are prone to leakage, and where high service intervals can be obtained

Aside from that the MSDS sheets indicate 80% proprietary base oil,
5% proprietary moly additives, and no indication of what the other 15% of the stuff is,

Intellectual property, or Trade secret, so yep Secret grease for your Yotas
go figer, but as a general rule these things go for 30 years if you leave them alone, Just like Kurt said,
Why Toyota wont tell you , ask them, I tried. "Privacy Act"

so are you going to send a respected member of the Toyota community all the stuff they need to switch to your grease, and then offer to pay for any damages to the axle should they occur as a result of improper lubrication?

I'm assuming not since you have no interest in actually showing this stuff in action.

 

[Tranny Frank]

The Damage has been done

The Toyota FSM indicates to use a incompatible form of grease, if the rig is original, factory lube you would be better off topping the knuckle with any thing but that,
Like they pointed out on the original thread Toyota steering knuckle leak. Bacon grease, butter, any of these items would not cause a chemical reaction with the factory lube, and cause the oil to seperate and leak thru the wiper seal.
Heck it wouldnt cause any trouble pumping dog crap in there,

 

[Tranny Frank]

Sample

almost a year ago now I sent Kurt a sample, 1 gal enough to do two rigs, is it in a rig or gathering dust under the shelf of trunnion bearings???

 

[Brett]

:brett: Just passing through :brett:

 

[cruiseroutfit]

almost a year ago now I sent Kurt a sample, 1 gal enough to do two rigs, is it in a rig or gathering dust under the shelf of trunnion bearings???

I'm yet to see it in use on an axle and given my success with the 'norm' I can't consciously use something different in a customers axle (not to mention I rarely get my hands dirty these days ). If/when my personal axles need a rebuild (re-packed/re-placed the last one 4 years ago when I put the new 30 spline Longs in)

I hope you understand my reasoning. If X product is not only spec'd by Toyota's own manuals and used in factory Toyota axle, but also has been proven to work as detailed over and over... I can't just tell a customer 'hey let me fill your knuckle' full of Y and try and justify a reason why it might be better. My knuckles don't leak with X and that is all that matters, we know they are lubricating just fine and if they are not leaking... what do I have to gain by trying something more expensive that could be costly. I'd be up for testing it if I really had some potential gain but assuming it does work I'm still at net zero no? What does this do that the proven X does not?

 

[Tacoma]

Frank, I'll buy a gallon of it if you tell me what's in YOUR lube. Seriously.

Extra points for telling me why it's better than Toyota factory stuff.

 

[Tranny Frank]

Wow

Tacoma,

I have told you everything I know about the stuff, is it better than Factory Toyota lube, dont know they wont tell me what they use when I asked they told me "privacy act"

Did Toyota blend their own lube that is better maybee,? is it proprietary yep
Is it incompatible with lithium grease, yep

When I say that it is Trade Secret, thats what is says on the barrel, I dont know what it is,

Why are you asking me what it is when I already told you that is proprietary, Trade Secret, Intellectual property,
Do you know what this means??
Maybee thats why the Toyota dealer told me their was a privacy act,

any way I want to speak to your leader you clowns are boring me

 

[Cody]

I am the leader of the clowns. You may speak with me.