Toy Hauler dilemma ... Our solution

benjy

Rarely wrenches
Supporting Member
Location
Moab
First things first, I'm convinced there is no ideal solution for someone looking to have a decent camp trailer while hauling a full size vehicle, but I think we're getting close. Mbryson's thread "Toy Hauler Ramblings" has some great info. We've debated for quite some time as to what our solution will be.

About a year and a half ago we picked up a nice used 8"6" Lance truck camper. Our jeep has been torn down for the majority of the time we had it, but we did take it out camping quite a bit. We found it was too tight for our comfort. It simply didn't have enough floor space for two full size adults, and a dog or two. I couldn't imagine what would have happened if we threw a kid in the mix (sometime down the road).

This discovery also eliminated the redneck toyhauler option. This was also a little too redneck for us.

About 6 months ago we sold the camper, and started a search for a nice enclosed car hauler. We were looking for a 102"x24' trailer that we could tear down and add living quarters/windows to. We looked around a lot, and found the standard size rear door on most enclosed were too small (6'3" IIRC). This added more stipulations to what we were looking for. I ended up realizing we would probably just end up in hotels and eating out every trip, or paying a ton for a custom built car hauler. Until this weekend :D

Last night we came across this toy hauler on KSL. It's a 26' Villa Motorsports trailer. It was listed as a toy hauler shell, and I would say this describes it very well. Most of the insulation is finished, but that's about it. We weren't able to find anything about the company, but the owner said it seemed well built. He didn't have all of the details on it's story, but he apparently bought it from a guy who picked it up in it's current (unfinished) state. My guess is Villa Motorsports was a startup trailer manufacturer, and this was purchased when they went out of business in 2002 (year per the title). We drove down to St. George this morning hoping for the best, and it turned out very well. The inside needs a ton of work to complete it, but we're excited to make it exactly how we want it. The frame is very well built, and the 3 5200lb axles should provide more than enough capacity for what we'll be adding to it.

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It came already equipped with a lot of the electrical work, plumbing (grey, black and fresh tanks already installed) water pump, A/C unit, and some other odds and ends. No doubt this thing needs a lot of work before it's finished, but we plan to have it usable by EJS (one project at a time). We'll update this thread as the project comes along.

Further down the road we'll add some much needed personality in the form of a vinyl wrap.
 

mbryson

.......a few dollars more
Supporting Member
You know I'll be watching this thread. Looks like an excellent score. State Trailer supply gave me the name of a guy that will custom build you a camp trailer. He might be handy to get supplies from? I don't have his number any longer, but it might be worth investigating.
 

gijohn40

too poor to wheel... :(
Location
Layton, Utah
we always thought about a motorhome with a separate car hauler... and a friend of ours has a diesel motorhome and told us to give it a try before we go out and buy a trailer of any sort... so we might just take him up on that this coming EJS
 

Bart

Registered User
Location
Arm Utah
I think if you have a street legal rig to drive around towns and to trails a motorhome is a great option. For those with buggy type rigs that need to haul to every trail, it would get to be a pain.
 

benjy

Rarely wrenches
Supporting Member
Location
Moab
You know I'll be watching this thread. Looks like an excellent score. State Trailer supply gave me the name of a guy that will custom build you a camp trailer. He might be handy to get supplies from? I don't have his number any longer, but it might be worth investigating.

Figured you'd be interested... thanks for the tip. Looks like I'll be able to get quite a bit of stuff from ebay, but I'm sure there will be odds and ends that I'll need.

We have also been battling the same dilemma

Good luck, we've been trying to figure it out for a few years now. The camper/flatbed was a great option besides the floor space.

Nice. How much? Sorta looks like a competitive.
Is it heavy?

Competitive? Is that a trailer manufacturer?

As far as weight, I would guess the dry weight would be 4500ish pounds?. It'll be interesting to see what happens when we add 6000lbs.

Price? Less than half the price we were going to pay for a custom enclosed (with no living quarter mods done) ;) Like I said, this thing is a project :D

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cannoncrawler

TWERNT THE MORMONS!!!!!!
Location
Idaho
My wife and I tossed around this dilemma for a long time. Thought about pullling doubles, thought about a motorhome, and all other options. There are times when we camp without wheeling, and times when we wheel without camping. Our 454 truck wouldn't haul a HUGE load, and we didn't want to go into debt.

Our solution: a long flat bed gooseneck, and a pop-up camper. We put a receiver on the back of the truggy and hook up the pop-up to it and pull both on the flatbed trailer, srtap em down and go. then we can just back it all off and set up camp. Then when we want to we can just pull the camper by itself.

seems to work for us.

when the home is paid off, we will prolly get a Motorhome. But by then, the kids will be mostly gone.
 

benjy

Rarely wrenches
Supporting Member
Location
Moab
Any updates?

Funny you ask. I almost posted an update a few days ago. It still sits exactly as it did when I posted this. In the next few weeks I'll be buying materials to start building out the living quarters. It will be a lot more simple than the original plan. Stay tuned...
 

jeeper

I live my life 1 dumpster at a time
Location
So Jo, Ut
I have been having the same issues for years.. Especially because we have a boat that cant be loaded onto a trailer like the rest of the toys... and now that we have a 3rd child our cab over is very tight... I am in the process of a "redneck hauler" but I am going to use a 5th wheel camper instead of a cab over camper to allow for the extra needed room... but now the boat and camper can't be in the same place..
Will be watching this thread!
 

Herzog

somewhat damaged
Admin
Location
Wydaho
the door opening is 6'4", and the cage rubs the top slightly (our jeep measured a hair over 6'6" before the coils settled)

Jpest uses ratchet straps to compress his suspension a little bit before driving into his enclosed trailer. I thought it was a good idea. :cool:
 
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