Toyota engine rebuild award.

mesha

By endurance we conquer
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A.F.
This thread reminds me……..

Steve buys and sells too many rigs. ;)
 
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AddictedOffroad

The Yota Specialists
Location
Windsor, CO
Yesterday I helped a friend with his Toyota runner engine rebuild, I watched he worked. With my experience working on Scout 800, Scout II, and Jeep ZJ I was amazed at the barrel of snakes under the hood of his pre-2000 runner. I would never work on one of them, I suggested he take it to Kurt or some other reliable Toyota person. I think Toyota owners that work on their own vehicles deserve Purple Hearts or some other award for there stubbornness. (Like Sixstring)

I guess when you are used to working on Scouts, which borrows all the leftover parts and throw-aways from Ford, Chevy, Dodge, and Jeep, it must be easier to work on....................

Parts guy at Napa: "What vehicle are we working on today?"
Jack: An International, well never mind, This is what I need: I need a GM steering box and Column, but Ford axle bearings & rotors. But, Jeep calipers, and pads. Then I have a Ford Tcase, but a Jeep transmission, or wait, is it a Jeep tcase.............................wait which tcase do I have?"
 

jackjoh

Jack - KC6NAR
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Riverton, UT
I guess when you are used to working on Scouts, which borrows all the leftover parts and throw-aways from Ford, Chevy, Dodge, and Jeep, it must be easier to work on....................

Parts guy at Napa: "What vehicle are we working on today?"
Jack: An International, well never mind, This is what I need: I need a GM steering box and Column, but Ford axle bearings & rotors. But, Jeep calipers, and pads. Then I have a Ford Tcase, but a Jeep transmission, or wait, is it a Jeep tcase.............................wait which tcase do I have?"

I am beginning to wish this post did not exist. Steve is a good guy, anyone that can stick with me on NPLD has to be a good guy, ask Steve. I started four wheeling a Scout 800 in 1967, switched to a Scout II in 1973 and a 74 in 1982, never touched the 800 except for the xx(&%$ smog pump and did just about everything to the two Scout II's you can do. In 1995 I got a Jeep ZJ and still have it with just routine maintenance and it is at 156,000 miles now. Sold my last Scout II in 1999. With that said, people like what they like and money usually dictates how much you work on a four wheeler. So whatever you drive and work on have fun but it is work but fun work.
 

sixstringsteve

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UT
That's some great reliability right there jack, I would be a scout fan too if I had that track record.

FWIW, that 3.0 V6 you were working on is a terrible engine. I would be frustrated as well.
 
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Bart

Registered User
Location
Arm Utah
I am beginning to wish this post did not exist. .

I really hope that's not the case Jack. I love to read your posts and agree with the original. I also agree that any mechanical device will eventually some sooner, and some later. I'm surprised this got into another make vs make thread. That's just plain sad.
 

AddictedOffroad

The Yota Specialists
Location
Windsor, CO
I am beginning to wish this post did not exist. Steve is a good guy, anyone that can stick with me on NPLD has to be a good guy, ask Steve. I started four wheeling a Scout 800 in 1967, switched to a Scout II in 1973 and a 74 in 1982, never touched the 800 except for the xx(&%$ smog pump and did just about everything to the two Scout II's you can do. In 1995 I got a Jeep ZJ and still have it with just routine maintenance and it is at 156,000 miles now. Sold my last Scout II in 1999. With that said, people like what they like and money usually dictates how much you work on a four wheeler. So whatever you drive and work on have fun but it is work but fun work.

I hope you don't think I was bashing Scouts or International. Nothing wrong with old school stuff. And, I agree with you. Most older carb'd motors are MUCH easier to work on. Even Internationals. The way I see it, is run what you run. I was just joking around that most vehicles of that vintage were easier to work on because parts were completely interchangeable between makes/models. These days not so much.

Most carb'd motors rarely lasted longer than 150K. By then, they had been run rich or lean for far too long and needed a rebuild. It wasn't until the emissions stuff started coming into effect that motors actually started lasting longer since the stupid "check engine light" would tell people that its not running right. Otherwise people would just run their cars until they stopped running.

Those old school mechanics and guys that taught themselves how to work on their stuff were the exception to the rule.

FWIW, I am a Toyota guy now. I started with Jeeps, then Early Broncos, and now Toyotas. I got tired of constantly having to wrench on my motors in the Jeeps and Ford. And, while I agree that the 3.0L 3VZE motor is a pile of crap, most of the other motors that Toyota built in those years were exceptional motors that rarely had mechanical issues. IMO, the 3.4L 5VZE is an extremely reliable, 300K mile motor with regular maintenance. The Lexus 1UZFE is the best motor IMO than ever got put into a Toyota based vehicle. Toyota spent $400,000,000 to make sure of it on that motor alone. lol
 

jackjoh

Jack - KC6NAR
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Riverton, UT
Now I am glad I started the post because we are getting to the point I was trying to make. All makes have there good and bad points and that Toyota engine was a mess and placement of parts made it difficult to work on. Any vehicle is only as good as the person that works on it but it is nice to have it well engineered and reliable to begin with. My Scouts were easy to work on except for the Smog junk that was dictated by the government. They always broke down in the driveway and only had to be towed once when I put a fan blade into the radiator while crossing railroad tracks without the benefit of a road.
So what is the worst thing about your four wheeler that you love?
 

skeptic

Registered User
If by four wheeler you mean 4x4, the worst thing about my H2 is the 12-13 mpg. Occasionally finding a close parking spot is hard as I don't try to squeeze in between cars that park on or over the line.
 
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