I kind of have a general question about trail ratings & what kind of a rig you can get through them on. The most difficult ones I have done have been ~3.5s (Rattlesnake, Kane Creek...). What kinds of clearance (tire size), lockers, winch, etc should be expected to complete 3, 3.5, 4, 4+...? I do ok with 33" tires & lockers (no winch) on 3.5 trails, should I try any 4s in Moab this spring? What would it generally take to do 4+ trails like Pritchett or Golden Spike?
Trail Ratings
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WayneXJ
grocery getter driver
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- So. Jordan
with 33's and lockers you should be able to do most trails in Moab. What do you drive?
WayneXJ
grocery getter driver
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- So. Jordan
DorkAlert said:
Golden Spike has lots of extra credit lines
James K
NO, I'm always like this
- Location
- Taylorsville, Ut
DorkAlert said:
Did spike the first time with 33's and a locker in the rear axle.
Jinx
when in doubt, upgrade!
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- So Jordan, Utah
I did prichett with 33's and a detroit in the rear...
and a long strap hooked to my buddy jeep
rocker knocker and the rock pile are not your friend... :suka:
and a long strap hooked to my buddy jeep
rocker knocker and the rock pile are not your friend... :suka:
95jeepgrndchke
Senior Member
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- In the ZJ
Correct me if im wrong but isnt Pritchett a 5 and the only 5 there is in Moab?badams said:
95jeepgrndchke
Senior Member
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I concurespencurai said:
I went by this guide.
http://www.4x4now.com/mu4wd.htm
So, other than Pritchett, I should be able to handle any of the established Moab trails?
I drive a TJ, 3" lift, 33" tires, front/real lockers.
http://www.4x4now.com/mu4wd.htm
So, other than Pritchett, I should be able to handle any of the established Moab trails?
I drive a TJ, 3" lift, 33" tires, front/real lockers.
i've done Poison Spider Mesa in my zuk when it was stock 4-6 times.....easy stuff....i think that's rated a 4 or something....
***EDIT..... i say rating shmating..... ...it's more driver than vehicle anyways. nobody is gonna wheel it the same...you gotta just go see the trail for yourself....truthfully i refuse to believe what they've been "rated" in the books, cause once you get on a trail it's not nearly as bad as it seemed on paper, and in writing....make sense?
***EDIT..... i say rating shmating.....
...it's more driver than vehicle anyways. nobody is gonna wheel it the same...you gotta just go see the trail for yourself....truthfully i refuse to believe what they've been "rated" in the books, cause once you get on a trail it's not nearly as bad as it seemed on paper, and in writing....make sense?
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- South Carolina....no public land
badams said:
I've run pritchett (except the rock pile) with my TJ outfitted with a 3" short arm kit, 33" tires, and detroits front and rear. I won't even hesitate to run a 4+ trail. Especially now that I have 4" of lift (working on getting 6" springs) with a longarm kit.
You'll be amazed at what your rig can do, just pay attention to what it is telling you as you run the trails.
shmoesmith
Registered User
its really about driver....I think the trail ratings that you see are for people without alot of offroad driving experience...you can get most stock vehicles up everything through poison spider in moab...after that clearance really does start to become an issues and so does articulation. It also totally depends on the vehicles as well....like spence said, you can get a stock sami though golden spike but that is only if you are a DAMN good driver and because the samurai is soo short. Take that same clearance on another vehicle (8 inches) with a bit longer wheelbase and you wouldnt make it. Or for example of vehicle capability..my tracker has pretty decent flex for IFS(about as much as a stock TJ)and a rear locker. it walks up tip over challenge (4 or 4+ rated obsticle) like nothing. Yet I have seen countless vehicles try to get up it with open diffs, lift kits and big tires and they fail (some good drivers can manage to do it open) The other thing you have consider when consulting this board is that alot of the people on here will tell you "oh its easy" but these people are very experienced drivers and have heavily modified rigs for the most part and havent ever tried half of these trails stock. If you ever read the charles wells book about the trail rating system they are always telling you the rating compared to how a STOCK vehicle will manage the trail(example: only the most capable stock vehicles can manage this trail without body damage -taken from poison spider trail rating in wells book: 4 rated), and then go on to tell you recommended modifications to make it easier. it all comes down to the driving baby
James K
NO, I'm always like this
- Location
- Taylorsville, Ut
just because a stock vehicle can doesn't mean it should.