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zukijames

zukijames

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can someone explain why so many racers have such little amounts of seperation at the frame side.


i thought that you wanted where the rear upper and lower links would meet if they continued to be at the front bumper.. and front links at rear bumper..

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does this low seperation help with body roll or something?


sorry for another dumb question i was just looking at pics from dirt riot and noticed it on several rigs
 
I Lean

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If you look at that rear suspension, the front separation is fairly close to the rear. It looks like there is a lot of anti-squat because you're seeing the two lower links triangulated.

In the front, I'm guessing Carl didn't have room to put the upper link any higher without modifying the frame a lot. Plus, he has less anti-dive now, than he would have with his radius arms before--so it's probably an improvement to a rig that already worked very well. :cool:
 
Herzog

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I was going to say, those are both the lowers you are seeing in the picture. As for the front, usually setup that way for anti-dive. The front & rear link link separation are most often not similar.
 
zukijames

zukijames

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Thanks I wondered if that was two lowers but on my iPod the t
Rear upper looked like part of the frame .

How did you learn so much Carl I really wish I knew more about suspension but reading 29394 hours of peoples opinions seems like I go in circles here is another question for you.



Are non triangulated lowers more stable?

Lots of racers have little or no triangulation on there rear lowers..

But on steep climbs .. Like suicide hill triangulated are better because they won't swing the nose around as much right?
 
Herzog

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zukijames said:
How did you learn so much Carl I really wish I knew more about suspension but reading 29394 hours of peoples opinions seems like I go in circles here is another question for you.
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Years and years of hands on experience. I've learned a ton from him as well.
 
I Lean

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Non-triangulated lower rears are not necessarily more or less stable than a triangulated version. A lot of racers use parallel lowers so they can mount their shocks on them.

The biggest change from triangulating lowers *usually* is you'll get less axle steer during articulation. (which can translate to stability when climbing, but doesn't necessarily)

You can learn a lot from reading everyone's opinions. You really solidify your own knowledge by trying it in real life, screwing it up, and making it better. Then lather, rinse, repeat. :)
 
zukijames

zukijames

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im jealous of you guys i wanta learn more ! can you put together some classes ! or start a RME offroad shop and let me come watch you guys work your magic!
 
I Lean

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Those freakin' Bronco people....all getting mixed up in my brainhole. :rolleyes:

I should have know it wasn't Carl's anyway, since there's no blue tube. My bad.
 
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