Violated by UHP
- Thread starter Chevycrew
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- Location
- Smithfield Utah
Do you have a Idaho residence and drivers licence? My Toyota has been registered to my property in Idaho for awhile, but in a recent talk with a UHP officer he said there would be a big issue if I couldn't prove that I live there--which I don't there is just a shop and farm on the property.
When I decided to licence it there I was told if it didn't stay in Utah for more than a month I would be okay, but from what this guy said yesterday I would really get screwed bad
I'd be willing to bet that they want proof of residency along with an explanation as to why it is registered there and not here.
Let me know how that turns out as I don't dare drive my Toyota here now
When I decided to licence it there I was told if it didn't stay in Utah for more than a month I would be okay, but from what this guy said yesterday I would really get screwed bad
I'd be willing to bet that they want proof of residency along with an explanation as to why it is registered there and not here.
Let me know how that turns out as I don't dare drive my Toyota here now
BillS2009
New Member
Are you legal in Idaho? If so, there is your argument to the judge.
- Location
- Sandy, Ut
Unfortunately its not much of an arguement. One is required to comply with each state, no different than a gun control, alcohol law, hunting, etc... If this truck is legitly in Idaho I sure would try that route though, worth a shot!
Some accounts in Idaho yes, others no.
Fender flares, front bumper height, rear bumper height, and mufflers are all technically in violation, but I have never been given more than a wave in Idaho.
I want to ride this out, and see if I can get it to pass in utah. I would be so much easier with a Utah DL and the rigs registered here.
But then I would be screwed on the toyota... It will never pass inspection.
Fender flares, front bumper height, rear bumper height, and mufflers are all technically in violation, but I have never been given more than a wave in Idaho.
I want to ride this out, and see if I can get it to pass in utah. I would be so much easier with a Utah DL and the rigs registered here.
But then I would be screwed on the toyota... It will never pass inspection.
- Location
- Bountiful, land of rocks
Do you have a Idaho residence and drivers licence? My Toyota has been registered to my property in Idaho for awhile, but in a recent talk with a UHP officer he said there would be a big issue if I couldn't prove that I live there--which I don't there is just a shop and farm on the property.
When I decided to licence it there I was told if it didn't stay in Utah for more than a month I would be okay, but from what this guy said yesterday I would really get screwed bad
I'd be willing to bet that they want proof of residency along with an explanation as to why it is registered there and not here.
Let me know how that turns out as I don't dare drive my Toyota here now
From what I remember there was a law with a hefty fine enacted 6-8 years ago for having out of state tags on a vehicle when your primary residence is in Utah? Something like $1100 minimum and it can go up from there? Brent Orton and I noticed this when he had his XJ registered in ID and lived in West Jordan. He decided to license his rig in UT.
A few weeks ago I was riding with a friend of mine in his stock jeep, when he got pulled over. He is an attorney and recieved the Jeep as payment for a dealership he did some work for in Wyoming. The jeep is registered in Wyoming and has been for 3+ years, while my friend has been driving it in Utah. When we were pulled over the police officer was very stern in saying that driving the Jeep in Utah was in violation of the law because it wasn't registered in his resident state. The officer let us off with a warning. As we were talking later my friend mentioned that he had been cited for it before with another vehicle and the fine turned out to be only somewhere around $50 (could have been blowing smoke, attorneys tend to do that...:greg
anderson750
I'm working on it Rose
- Location
- Price, Utah
Attorney knowingly breaking the law............is he a PI lawyer?:greg:
WHAT WAS HIS NAME?!?! Was it by chance Sgt. Jason S. Kelsey??? drives a grey unmarked ford F150????
If so, this is the same guy that got me!!
In febuary, this UHP guy pulled me over for:
Flares on being wide enough (stock ones)
Front bumper was too short, Rear was not atleast 4.5" in height. (it is 4")
No side Markers
No reflectors
No Plate lamp
No 3rd brake light
No front plate displayed
Well, last wednesday I got my jeep inspectied and emissioned. (I had fixed the side markers, flares reflectors, bumpers, 3rd brake light)
It passed inspection, and I got my new sticker at the shop. Well Mr. UHP man was at the shop, THE NEXT MORNING to look over my jeep.
After looking over my jeep AGAIN, this is what he got me for again!
My LED 3rd brake light wasnt good enough (HE WANTS THE STOCK ONE!!!!)
No reverse lamps or plate light (this stuff isnt necessary to pass, it is just an advise)
Flares didnt cover the WHOLE TIRE!!! (I have maybe 1 1/2" sticking out)
My rear reflectors were not in the "correct" place
The rear bumper height
No front plate displayed (also another advise)
So, he revoked my inspection, and I have a certain amount of time for me to fix it. And I need to take it to UHP in Salt Lake for them to OK it.
This guy has it out for me. I see worse jeeps than mine out on the road!
Tonight I actually took my LED TAIL LIGHTS out, and put the stock stuff back in. I got to put the STOCK 3rd brake light on, and then put my new "street" tires and wheels on (so EVERYTHING IS COVERED!)
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I didnt know there was bumper height laws. I cant find anything about that in the codes. I have no 3rd brake light, my shell blocks it. He didnt say anything about my front bumper, I know it wont pass. (Ill build bumpers to put in the receivers for inspection if i have to)
I didnt get the officers name. I cant read his signature, but his badge number is listed as: 24, last name starts with S
I didnt get the officers name. I cant read his signature, but his badge number is listed as: 24, last name starts with S
BillS2009
New Member
If that were true, no one could ever visit California from another state. I can't think of what the law is called, but each state must recognize and allow casual visitors from across state lines. It's in the interstate transportation regulations.
- Location
- Sandy, Ut
Show me the law... The law is very clear, if you spend the majority of your time in Utah, you must license, inspect and register your rigs here. Safety compliance issues absolutely are enforced on out of state rigs. Each year the plated buggy guys from CO get hassled in Moab.
What is so strict about California that keeps others out?
It is in Article 1 of the Constitution of the United States. If a case ever got far enough in the courts you might be surprised with the result. I remember a major drug case being thrown out because the UHP trooper used illegal window tint as a reason for the initial traffic stop when the tint was legal in the guys home state.
- Location
- Sandy, Ut
The constitution grants the rights to ignore a current states laws so long as it is legal in your own? So California is 100% content with my Utah CCP and a legal binding gay marriage can be performed in SLC? Even the most radical thinking groups haven't tried to push those against the constitution, yet (with time I'm sure they might). I have no doubt its a good argument, hence why I would say try it. But its my understanding you are under the laws of the state you are in.
If I remember right on the tint/drug cases it came down to "passing through" on a federal interstate versus actually living and residing or temporarily recreating in said state. Maybe I'm wrong but there are a dime a dozen cases where out of state'ers are forced to abide by a states laws yet a limited number that side the other way. Your absolutely right though, it would make a really good case. However his case is immediately out the door when the fact he is a Utah resident by definition comes up. Of course if your illegal in ID too then its a pretty moot point. Just because they have tags on them, doesn't make them legal anywhere
Plus my drivers ed teacher always told us driving was a privilege, not a right lol.
- Location
- Sandy, Ut
If nothing else
By chance do you know if it is in deed legal in Idaho as you have it currently set up?
Huh??? Where in Article 1 is it? Article 1 is all about the Legislative Branch, it's duties, it's power's, etc...but nothing about rights from state to state.