Waterproofing and adding Mildew prevetion for a Roof Top Tent

Greg

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Seems like half of the time we're using the Roof Top Tent (RTT), there's some kind of precipitation falling from the sky. Our Mombasa has protected us fairly well from the elements, but if the rain was constant and lasted several hours the moisture would eventually seep thru the walls of the RTT and we'd wake up to damp sleeping bags, pillows or worse, the next days clothes.

I had thought about waterproofing the RTT, but the thought usually came after finding damp bedding while on the trail. Hard to do anything about it at that point.

While walking thru Sportsman's Warehouse a few weeks ago I came across a waterproofing and mildew resisting product from Camp Inn, called Cerf Kote. It is advertised to be used for tents, canvas tarps, etc. Obviously waterproofing was desired, but the added resistance to growing mildew really made sense. When the RTT is used in the rain, we try to knock off all the water before folding it up and putting it away, but that's not always possible. Add to the fact that the RTT may sit for several weeks before being unfolded again and allowed to properly dry, the combination of waterproofing and adding resistance to mildew made sense. The price for a gallon of Cerf Kote was around $25, not bad to ensure dry nights in bed and added life to our RTT.

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I decided to apply the Cerf Kote to the RTT with the tent on the ground. I pulled the tent down and opened it up on the driveway, then removed the mattress in case any of the product made it inside.

First thing I did was take the rain fly off and spread it on the ground. I used a standard paint roller for most of the application and then a spray bottle to go over the mesh windows, seams and other places that could potentially leak. I applied a liberal amount to the rain fly and found it curious that it didn't bleed thru. There was standing liquid Cerf Kote on the rain fly, but the material soaked it up before it bleed thru. I went over the whole tent with a hand roller next, then allowed it to dry in the sun. It took about an hour before the tent was dry to the touch. I decided to re-apply a 2nd coat to the rain fly, since it will see the most rain. The Cerf Kote is paraffin-based, making it a bit waxy and very water-resistant.

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After some more time drying, I decided to pour some water on the tent and see how well the Cerf Kote worked. I was pretty impressed, water beaded right up and ran right off the tent! The water ran off like it was on a freshly waxed car. I poured some more on the roof, where there was a depression... same result, big beads of water sitting on top of the material. I shook the tent off and the beads disappeared and the remaining bit of water dried up quickly. I tried to capture the beading water, but it wasn't too easy to do so. Here's a couple pics.-

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Hopefully this will last some time, I've been impressed with it so far. I'll be happy to report back after our next rainy trip. :D
 

bryson

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Thanks Greg, that's good to know. I've been wanting to give my Springbar another coat of water proofing, now I have an idea of what to use.

I hear Patchouli oil is very water resistant also.:p

Good write-up Greg... As soon as I have a nice tent, I'll have to try this out!
 

cruiseroutfit

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Great review Greg!

I used an aeresol can tent water-proofer (Camp Dry?) on my gen 1 Mombasa. It seemed to work OK but was hard to spray consistently and I bet I spent $20 on the the 4 cans I needed, Cerf-Kote seems like a far better deal. I've thought about adding some additional water proofing to my current setup, I'll have to hunt down some Cerf-Kote.

Anyone worried about bugs? There have been a couple ExPo threads recently about tents being damaged by bugs while stowed. Would suck to open your tent and find out bugs have chewed holes all over in it. I'm not sure really have bugs like that in our climate?
 

Caleb

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Great review Greg!

I used an aeresol can tent water-proofer (Camp Dry?) on my gen 1 Mombasa. It seemed to work OK but was hard to spray consistently and I bet I spent $20 on the the 4 cans I needed, Cerf-Kote seems like a far better deal. I've thought about adding some additional water proofing to my current setup, I'll have to hunt down some Cerf-Kote.

Anyone worried about bugs? There have been a couple ExPo threads recently about tents being damaged by bugs while stowed. Would suck to open your tent and find out bugs have chewed holes all over in it. I'm not sure really have bugs like that in our climate?
When I was fishing, we used Camp Dry on most of our stuff that we wanted to be waterproof (particularly our carharts). It always worked pretty good. I think this cerf-kote is better for a tent application though.
 

DOSS

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Anyone worried about bugs? There have been a couple ExPo threads recently about tents being damaged by bugs while stowed. Would suck to open your tent and find out bugs have chewed holes all over in it. I'm not sure really have bugs like that in our climate?


We do have moths that will chew through your canvas stuff when stored for sure.. I always just toss a couple of chunks of cedar in with my stuff when stored.. it keeps 99% of the little buggers away and doesn't smell nasty like mothballs :)... also if there is any moisture in your stuff when you put it away it attracts bugs that will eat away at your gear as well...

Thanks for the FYI on this stuff gonna have to give a coat to my new Kodiak... well maybe after I see how well it does in the rain as it sits HEHE
 

mesha

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We do have moths that will chew through your canvas stuff when stored for sure.. I always just toss a couple of chunks of cedar in with my stuff when stored.. it keeps 99% of the little buggers away and doesn't smell nasty like mothballs :)... also if there is any moisture in your stuff when you put it away it attracts bugs that will eat away at your gear as well...

Thanks for the FYI on this stuff gonna have to give a coat to my new Kodiak... well maybe after I see how well it does in the rain as it sits HEHE

The kodiak is treated with hydroshield (water and UV guard) already. All you should have to do is swell the thread areas with a little water once.

Cedar eh? Just like a little chunk of cedar post from a deck project?

yep. or you can pay a lot of money to get some super smelly kind at the store.
 

Rot Box

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Great thread! I'll give it a try for sure :cool:

In a pinch I use a big tarp that I throw over mine. It works quite well but it can be a little annoying and in the way. I like my Mombasa a lot, but I think a beefier 4 seasons RTT would be the ticket. So far I haven't really seen any that fit that description...
 

cruiseroutfit

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Great thread! I'll give it a try for sure :cool:

In a pinch I use a big tarp that I throw over mine. It works quite well but it can be a little annoying and in the way. I like my Mombasa a lot, but I think a beefier 4 seasons RTT would be the ticket. So far I haven't really seen any that fit that description...

I'm pretty happy with my gen 2 Mombasa as a year round option, and even more so the ARB Simpson III. I've been in up to 4-5" of overnight snow with the Mombasa and it did better than expected. I think any thicker of material and they would start having stowage problems?

There is a product called Permathrin that is supposedly the thing to use on fabrics for bug protection. ExOfficio uses it on some of their clothing and I can attest to the effectiveness... and they have managed to put it on clothes without a bad odor? I guess its what the military uses on their clothing? Still trying to find a source.
 

mesha

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I'm pretty happy with my gen 2 Mombasa as a year round option, and even more so the ARB Simpson III. I've been in up to 4-5" of overnight snow with the Mombasa and it did better than expected. I think any thicker of material and they would start having stowage problems?

There is a product called Permathrin that is supposedly the thing to use on fabrics for bug protection. ExOfficio uses it on some of their clothing and I can attest to the effectiveness... and they have managed to put it on clothes without a bad odor? I guess its what the military uses on their clothing? Still trying to find a source.

I have plenty of permethrin for you:D

Spray on or wash in you take your pick. Either will last for 6 washings in the machine, so in rain it should last a really long time.
 

mesha

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A.F.
Really? How does it come? Pint? Gallon?

About a pint I guess. I can't remember exactly. If I were treating a tent I would buy the soak in kind and brush it on with a bristle style paint brush. I think a roller would be overkill for this application.
 

Rattles

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OK. I registered specifically for this thread. I also have a Mombasa that is a few years old now. It has weathered a few storms camped right on teh shores of Lake Superior. This past summer I have noticed it to be giving a few drips inside and it never has before. I wondred how your weatherproofing has fared since you have done it. I picked up a gallon of waterproofing from West Marine made by Starbrite. I am hoping to get a chance to apply it soon.

How has the stuff you applied held up?
 

Greg

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OK. I registered specifically for this thread. I also have a Mombasa that is a few years old now. It has weathered a few storms camped right on teh shores of Lake Superior. This past summer I have noticed it to be giving a few drips inside and it never has before. I wondred how your weatherproofing has fared since you have done it. I picked up a gallon of waterproofing from West Marine made by Starbrite. I am hoping to get a chance to apply it soon.

How has the stuff you applied held up?

I no longer own the Mombasa that was waterproofed, but I did sell it to another member on here. He did recently mention that the tent held up in a rain storm and no water got inside! Apparently the waterproofing is still working as it should, almost 3 years after it was applied. Hope that helps! :D
 

frieed

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I have plenty of permethrin for you:D

Permethrin

Permethrin is a common synthetic chemical, widely used as an insecticide, acaricide, and insect repellent. It belongs to the family of synthetic chemicals called pyrethroids and functions as a neurotoxin, affecting neuron membranes by prolonging sodium channel activation. It is not known to rapidly harm most mammals or birds, but is dangerously toxic to cats[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP] and fish. In general, it has a low mammalian toxicity and is poorly absorbed by skin.[SUP][3][/SUP]

Not sure I'd want to sleep in a tent coated with this...
 
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