what the friggin' heck? computer guys report!!!

timpanogos

Push to the Peak
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because the file mapping table is linear, and will always look in the same sequence for a "hole" to drop a file in. Thus files tend to be created/deleted in the same sectors over and over again.

Some defrag utilities have the ablilty to move certain types of files together .. for example, system files and executable files, which do not tend to be deleted very often if ever

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you could also stand some "free space consolidation" if your defragger supports it
 
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waynehartwig

www.jeeperman.com
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Mead, WA
Also, the defrag will sort files depending on their frequency of use. The system/most used are to the left. Least used far right.

I keep an icon on my desktop for C:\WINDOWS\system32\defrag.exe c: -b that I run once in a while... It defrags the system portion and moves all of the system files to the beginning of the drive. :D

:bryson: edit Oh, and having the green part fraged like that will take up resources and slwo you down. That is the swap file and you should have it all together. Bad part is that defrag won't fix it. Basically the only way to fix it is to turn it off, delete the file, defrag, and then turn it back on and hope there is room for it without fragging up again.
 

mbryson

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I'm not sure how outdated this would be, but when I had marginal machines, I'd defrag, turn the virtual memory off, defrag, turn the virtual memory back on and have a nice little machine for a while (that defragged the paging file). (of course, that was 100 years ago in computer time.....I'm not sure how applicable it would be on modern hardware--it worked great on Pentium 75s, though)
 

waynehartwig

www.jeeperman.com
Location
Mead, WA
I'm not sure how outdated this would be, but when I had marginal machines, I'd defrag, turn the virtual memory off, defrag, turn the virtual memory back on and have a nice little machine for a while (that defragged the paging file). (of course, that was 100 years ago in computer time.....I'm not sure how applicable it would be on modern hardware--it worked great on Pentium 75s, though)

I don't think it will move the file, though, because it considers it a system file? Absolutely worth a try though!!
 

mbryson

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I don't think it will move the file, though, because it considers it a system file? Absolutely worth a try though!!


The file's actually no longer there (at least in Win 95-98). I think you had to boot in safe mode or possibly with the Shift key down (I really don't remember for some reason) to eliminate any programs from starting up.
 

waynehartwig

www.jeeperman.com
Location
Mead, WA
The file's actually no longer there (at least in Win 95-98). I think you had to boot in safe mode or possibly with the Shift key down (I really don't remember for some reason) to eliminate any programs from starting up.

It's there.. It's a hidden, protected, system file - pagefile.sys. I think it's always been that way since Windows began in the 80's.
 

mbryson

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It's there.. It's a hidden, protected, system file - pagefile.sys. I think it's always been that way since Windows began in the 80's.


But it's only one sector at that point. When you increase the file size back to what it's supposed to be, you've got defragged virtual memory. :D Worked awesome on marginal hardware. I didn't have a choice. I had to make the hardware last due to a 7 year lease on computer equipment with a NASTY monthly payment.
 

waynehartwig

www.jeeperman.com
Location
Mead, WA
But it's only one sector at that point. When you increase the file size back to what it's supposed to be, you've got defragged virtual memory. :D Worked awesome on marginal hardware. I didn't have a choice. I had to make the hardware last due to a 7 year lease on computer equipment with a NASTY monthly payment.

OH I understand now.. I thought you were saying something else... Don't worry, I'll catch up at some point! :D :ugh::confused: huh?;)
 
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