I just put a front Dana 60 under my YJ. I need to get a locker. I have had detroits before and I have been happy with them. Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with the Yukon grizzly or zip lockers. I like the idea of a selectable locker in the front, but I also like the reliability of a Detroit type locker. Any input is appreciated.
Which locker to get
- Thread starter Jeremed
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iamsparticus
Take your Rig to the Edge
- Location
- Ogden,Ut
id go with a ARB they are top notch and being able to unlock your front is a very good option on the trail
gertsch
Well-Known Member
- Location
- West Bountiful
I'm an ox guy myself and have had no issues with both of them in my jeep. You can also make the ox electric or air actuated. Also they have the driveway lock if for some reason your actuator fails or you ruin a cable. You unbolt the cable screw in the driveway lock and its locked all the time like a spool. Then unscrew it and its open. But I've never had to worry about needs one.
driver-disconnect lockers front and rear if you can afford them. on the trail unlocking either axle really has its benefits. on the road auto lockers like Aussie, or lock-rite still "ratchet" and make your turning radius wider, and trash tires
i currently have welded spiders on the rear, and a lock-rite up front. all i hear is screeching tires in anything but a straight line. i thought it was bad, but on saturday i was towed off the mountain by a buddy who has an auto-locker in the rear (lock-rite) when we got into town i hitched a ride with him to the parts store. as he turned into the parking stall you could feel/hear the rear fighting itself. and as we got out there was the tell-tale tire-marks on the pavement as he cranked it in. it wasn't as bad as welded/spooled. but it still fought, and chirped
what i am saying is that if you want to drive this on-road at all even an auto locker will trash tires, and fight. you want something you can turn off. my rig is mostly an off-road rig, and my welded spiders do just fine on the trail
i currently have welded spiders on the rear, and a lock-rite up front. all i hear is screeching tires in anything but a straight line. i thought it was bad, but on saturday i was towed off the mountain by a buddy who has an auto-locker in the rear (lock-rite) when we got into town i hitched a ride with him to the parts store. as he turned into the parking stall you could feel/hear the rear fighting itself. and as we got out there was the tell-tale tire-marks on the pavement as he cranked it in. it wasn't as bad as welded/spooled. but it still fought, and chirped
what i am saying is that if you want to drive this on-road at all even an auto locker will trash tires, and fight. you want something you can turn off. my rig is mostly an off-road rig, and my welded spiders do just fine on the trail
RockChucker
Well-Known Member
- Location
- Highland
I just installed zip lockers front and rear in my 60's. Beat on it for 3 days down in moab. No issues and it is very nice to be able to unlock the diffs!
jinxspot
~ Bush Eater's Offroad ~
- Location
- Salt Lake Utah
In addition to the Locking and unlocking of the diff with a selectable air locker you get on board air!!! 
To me its a double investment that can save you or your group in a pinch on the trail... and a little first hand testimate is that my buddy just installed a ZIPLocker this year in the front of his TJ with a Ford44 and absolutely loves it. Cant go wrong with huge name like Yukon bringing new bad-arse products to the market!!! (on the other hand my 8" yota ARB has been beat on for more that 5 years without issues).
To me its a double investment that can save you or your group in a pinch on the trail... and a little first hand testimate is that my buddy just installed a ZIPLocker this year in the front of his TJ with a Ford44 and absolutely loves it. Cant go wrong with huge name like Yukon bringing new bad-arse products to the market!!! (on the other hand my 8" yota ARB has been beat on for more that 5 years without issues).
JL Rockies
Binders Fulla Expo
- Location
- Draper
If Chuck Norris were President, his Secret Service code name would be "ARB". ARB: from the Greek phrase "harder than calculus".
rondo
rondo
- Location
- Boise Idaho
I run spools in my YJ front and rear but woudn't recommend them for a lot of street use. Selectable lockers are best for street use but i hate ARBs. I've run them for years and the problems are many: they fail to lock, compressor issues, blue line cracks and air leak issues, oil creeps up the line, had a bad relay once, locker locked the rear axle and wouldn't unlock on another occasion. The guys that love ARBs are the ones selling them.
I would try OX lockers if i could do it over again. I've tried lock right lockers in my YJ front and rear and i'm here to tell you i'd rather drink myself to death with non-alcoholic beer than run those again.
I would try OX lockers if i could do it over again. I've tried lock right lockers in my YJ front and rear and i'm here to tell you i'd rather drink myself to death with non-alcoholic beer than run those again.
Jinx
when in doubt, upgrade!
- Location
- So Jordan, Utah
Ok i will go against the grain and say:
The only reason to get an ARB is you drive it a TON on the road or you like the sound of the compressor every time you flip the switch.
No offense to Kurt, Bart, or Carl (my friends with ARB tattoos)
In another life I was at a crawling comp (yeah a million years ago) and watched Nick Campbell time out on an obstacle because his ARB had an air issue. You can't tell me it was installed wrong. It just happens too many variables.
So I guess my point is if you need the street manners and can put up with the possibility of not having a locker, (compressor issue, line issues, silinoid issue, fitting issue, seal issue, etc.) then get the ARB.
If you want a dependable locker with decent road manners think about a Detroit. Things like spools and Lincoln lockers don't count. Yeah they work but you'll probably hate them.
Two more side thoughts
1) for those whining about tire wear and such with a Detroit locker they havent figured out how to a) turn a hub out, b) shift out of front/4wheel drive, or c) coast through a turn.
2) while a lock rite acts similar to a Detroit don't pretend they are the same. It's like your yuppie friends telling you they go hardcore wheeling in their Subaru.
(Let me know if you don't know who Nick Campbell is)
The only reason to get an ARB is you drive it a TON on the road or you like the sound of the compressor every time you flip the switch.
No offense to Kurt, Bart, or Carl (my friends with ARB tattoos)
Max Power; said:
In another life I was at a crawling comp (yeah a million years ago) and watched Nick Campbell time out on an obstacle because his ARB had an air issue. You can't tell me it was installed wrong. It just happens too many variables.
So I guess my point is if you need the street manners and can put up with the possibility of not having a locker, (compressor issue, line issues, silinoid issue, fitting issue, seal issue, etc.) then get the ARB.
If you want a dependable locker with decent road manners think about a Detroit. Things like spools and Lincoln lockers don't count. Yeah they work but you'll probably hate them.
Two more side thoughts
1) for those whining about tire wear and such with a Detroit locker they havent figured out how to a) turn a hub out, b) shift out of front/4wheel drive, or c) coast through a turn.
2) while a lock rite acts similar to a Detroit don't pretend they are the same. It's like your yuppie friends telling you they go hardcore wheeling in their Subaru.
(Let me know if you don't know who Nick Campbell is)
TEAM FRED
Registered User
- Location
- Centerville
ARB No questions asked!
Hands down best company to have behind such an important item.
Zip locker is also great. Just old ARB stuff if I recall. Still no proplems with either.
I don't sell either but will install with confidence!
Hands down best company to have behind such an important item.
Zip locker is also great. Just old ARB stuff if I recall. Still no proplems with either.
I don't sell either but will install with confidence!
- Location
- Sandy, Ut
Can an ARB have a failure, sure. Have mine, nope. I've sold hundreds and hundreds, never had to deal with a warranty. Carl has setup hundreds for customers of mine that we have shipped all over the globe, zero come-backs. Anecdotal, perhaps but I sell/stock Detroits, LockRites, etc for the Land Cruiser diffs... guess which one I have the least markup on Its not all about making a sale/money, its about finding what your customers want/need.
I can think of first-hand personal experiences of a broken locker of nearly every variety... Detroits grenading and taking out the shaft, Eaton's wiping out the actuator, Lock-Rights sheering the pins, Ox's binding. However given the number of ARB's in service amongst my clientele and the low number of issues both functionality and drive-ability, I'll continue to recommend the ARB for some and the Detroit and LockRite for others. Lockers are not a one-size fits-all solution.
Its not all about making a sale/money, its about finding what your customers want/need. I can think of first-hand personal experiences of a broken locker of nearly every variety... Detroits grenading and taking out the shaft, Eaton's wiping out the actuator, Lock-Rights sheering the pins, Ox's binding. However given the number of ARB's in service amongst my clientele and the low number of issues both functionality and drive-ability, I'll continue to recommend the ARB for some and the Detroit and LockRite for others. Lockers are not a one-size fits-all solution.
Jinx
when in doubt, upgrade!
- Location
- So Jordan, Utah
I knew I would get you two to post up.
Both Kurt and Carl have good points and a lot of experience to back it up.
Kurt put it best when he said "lockers are not a one size fits all solution"
Both Kurt and Carl have good points and a lot of experience to back it up.
Kurt put it best when he said "lockers are not a one size fits all solution"
TEAM FRED
Registered User
- Location
- Centerville
I knew I would get you two to post up.
Both Kurt and Carl have good points and a lot of experience to back it up.
Kurt put it best when he said "lockers are not a one size fits all solution"
Thanks Nick! If I could only choose one selectable I would put it in the rear due to turning radius gains.