07 Dodge CTD Performance upgrade reccomendations

[newman187]

I know its been covered. . . no need to flame, I just didnt' see much on the Banks exhaust system, my rig is the 5.9l CTD, here is a link to their websight http://store.bankspower.com/Categories.aspx?Category=ede4ffaa-4e85-4138-b83f-05ccb76c4b38

I have talked to a banks rep, he is saying this is the shiznit, but what salesman doesn't say their **** is the **** (Yes i am a salesman).

I just dont want some loud ass exhaust that the wife will complain about, she is already annoyed with the whistle the turbo makes.

Any way thoughts while I read other exhaust reccomendations?

Also I spoke to the dodge service manager this morning, I asked him what stuff can Ido that wont void the warranty, he pretty much said exhaust is the only thing, but I wanted to put in a banks aftermarket intake system and possibly the High Ram intake manifold, but he says it will instantly void powertrain warranty.

Thank You,

Jer

 

[Tee]

Go over to www.dieseltruckresource.com and search around. From what I recall the only benefit of an aftermarket exhaust on the 04.5+ 5.9's comes after extensive mods to programing and injectors and that will void warranty's...

In stock form the best bang for your buck is to replace the muffler with a straight pipe. CAn get them for about 90 buxs delivered. Leave in the cat and you get a nice deep tone when your working it and almost no change in cab noise at highway cruise. The factory muffler has alot of back pressure. You will also drop your EGT's when working it. The cat itself has very low restriction and its removal will also void warranty.

High ram intake doesn't get very good reviews on any of the Cummins sites. Looks purdy but don't do squat!.

Do you have an auto or manual. I don't think that auto can handle much more than the 5.9 is putting out in stock form.

 

[newman187]

Its an auto because well the wife didn't want to drive a 6 speed around town as it is now her daily driver. I dont really plan on doing any kind of mods that will void the warranty as I have stated, I will however check out that websight to see what is on the up and up. When I spoke to the Dodge service manager yesterday he tells me that even if you put a K&N on the truck it could void the powertrain warranty so I am hesitant to put any type of intake on the truck.

 

[Bodine]

I talked to the service dept at Ken Garff a while back they told me If they installed the mods such as a Edge Ez or a filter ( didn't ask about exhaust) that they would warranty what they installed however the key word to me was they would warranty , not Dodge or Cummins.
That was on an 04 600 too so the new trucks may be different.

 

[Tee]

Yes a K&N will void the warranty if found by the tech's. The media used in them doesn't hold up to the SUCK the turbo produces and will pull dust thru the filter. There are other aftermarket filters you can use that are an improvement over OEM. But not many, and none of them are an oil soaked media. I think ARE is the best available right now. I run an Amsoil dry media filter. Look thru your owners manual. There is a very specific list of approved oil filters and I think air filters as well that will not effect your powertrain warranty.

I'm an oddball. My Cummins power handles everything I would ever want to pull/carry better than I could ever want and I have no desire to increase its power. I spent all my MOD money on my ability to slow it down with a Jake Brake!

 

[CoreyT]

Sounds like you are going to the wrong dealer. PM me if you are interested in my experiences with local dealers. As far as exhaust systems, you already have a 4" exhaust from the turbo back. The only really restrictive part is the muffler. As has already been mentioned you could straight pipe it, but you may get some drone in the cab when towing. I have also been told that the Banks muffler is loud and also drones badly when towing or accelerating hard (plus I think all of their stuff is highly overpriced).

If you are worried about noise, many of the aftermarket air intakes also increase turbo noise quite a bit. A repacement air filter can't void warranty if it filters as well as stock. If you don't want to argue with the dealer about it you can switch back to stock in under 30 minutes before you take your truck in. I personally ended up replacing my muffler with a straight through 4" that is pretty quiet (Rokktech). I replaced my airfilter with a higher flowing drop in replacement from Amsoil and cut a 4" hole in the bottom of the airbox. This setup has been shown to support up to 500 horsepower just fine and works well with the mild performance module I'm using.

You aren't going to see a lot of horsepower gain from exhaust and intake, but you will see better mileage and lower EGT's. Also, I wouldn't worry about buying the High Ram or any other intake manifold until you are trying to add a lot more air/fuel (turbo, electronics, injectors, intercooler, etc.) and your stock tranny won't support much more than 100 hp over stock without slipping anyway.

 

[1993yj]

My dad put a 4" Aero Turbine resonated muffler on his Duramax and you can't really notice a difference in how loud it is, but it is deeper. He was in the same boat as having a wife who didn't want it to be too loud. I always thought that was what new mufflers were for, being loud, never thought about the power factor

 

[newman187]

I have made the mistake of taking a new vehicle into a dealer with aftermarket stuff on it (yes I use to be a ricer) and they voided the warranty on the whole vehicle, and woudln't you know it 6 months after that one of the valve seats were leaking and i was burning oil at the top of the rpm band, stupid of me yes, and yes I learned from said mistakes. I just think the stock exhaust is fugly is all, a bit more power and lower egt's are nice but is it necessary. . . no especially since the wife wants a fiberglass tonneau cover.

Also My truck didn't have a service or owners manual, i guess i'll have to find one, I just watn to make sure this truck lasts, the damn thing cost more than I have ever spent on a vehicle, dont wanna f**k it up if you catch my drift.

 

[Greg]

I'd check out the Smarty downloader, you can download different power levels depending on what you're looking for, then remove the downloaded program if you need to take it into the dealer. They are the only downloader that can't be traced by the dealer...

You can also manage engine/vehicle codes, adjust speedometer for different tires, etc.

I came close to getting a Edge Juice w/ Attitude for our '03, but decided to wait. I think I'm going to get the Smarty Jr.

 

[Meat_]

Yes a K&N will void the warranty if found by the tech's. The media used in them doesn't hold up to the SUCK the turbo produces and will pull dust thru the filter...

You ever looked at your filter minder? Notice how it reads the same as a non turbo vehicle does?

Sweet, you spent a bunch of money and had a new head designed so you could have a Jake Brake designed so you could use that instead of an exhaust brake?

Oh, and ahhh they are using K&N's on the chopper turbines in the Iraq... I think they suck a bit more than your turbo.

 

[Tee]

You ever looked at your filter minder? Notice how it reads the same as a non turbo vehicle does?

Sweet, you spent a bunch of money and had a new head designed so you could have a Jake Brake designed so you could use that instead of an exhaust brake?

Oh, and ahhh they are using K&N's on the chopper turbines in the Iraq... I think they suck a bit more than your turbo.

Don't have a non turbo motor with a filter minder so I couldn't say? But I do know that filter minders come in different calibrations depending on the application. I know this because one of my previouse CTD's had a service bulliten issued to replace said filter minder as the one installed at the factory was for a larger ISM series motor instead of my smaller ISB series motor. (bigger motor needs more air, maybe?)

Jake Brake is a TRADE name used by "Jacobs Vehicle Systems" http://www.jakebrake.com/products/ld.php They make both exhaust and compression brakes depending on the application..

If they do indeed use K&N's in choppers? Ever hear of a MILITARY spec product? They are typically different than something you can buy at Wal Mart!?

I have seen the dusting inside the intake tube of a CTD running a K&N. I have also seen the damaged turbo vanes from same dusting. You want to run a K&N? Go for it. You probably use Fram oil filters as well don't you!. I wouldn't put either one on my lawn mower.

Put the crack pipe down and step away from the computer:wtf:

 

[Tee]

They are the only downloader that can't be traced by the dealer...

You are correct. The downloader itself cannot be detected by the scanner at the dealer. However, the scanner can pick up on the fact the the key cycles have been reset, (this happens whenever you manipulate programing) and many other monitored points that are just not quite right. They won't know what you had on there, but they will know you had something.

If you put any kind of programer, module, chip, downloader on your truck be fully prepared to be your own warranty provider. As you will likely not get the work performed under the Factory Warranty if the repair has anything to do with your powertrain.

 

[newman187]

Chips and or programs are deffinatly out of the question, I dont even think i'll throw an exhaust on it for now. I just dont wanna screw up the warranty on this engine, I know my suspension warranty is shot due to the lift but what can you do?

 

[Meat_]

Don't have a non turbo motor with a filter minder so I couldn't say? But I do know that filter minders come in different calibrations depending on the application. I know this because one of my previouse CTD's had a service bulliten issued to replace said filter minder as the one installed at the factory was for a larger ISM series motor instead of my smaller ISB series motor. (bigger motor needs more air, maybe?)

Jake Brake is a TRADE name used by "Jacobs Vehicle Systems" http://www.jakebrake.com/products/ld.php They make both exhaust and compression brakes depending on the application..

If they do indeed use K&N's in choppers? Ever hear of a MILITARY spec product? They are typically different than something you can buy at Wal Mart!?

I have seen the dusting inside the intake tube of a CTD running a K&N. I have also seen the damaged turbo vanes from same dusting. You want to run a K&N? Go for it. You probably use Fram oil filters as well don't you!. I wouldn't put either one on my lawn mower.

I'm sure glad I'm not one of those people who believes everything they read on the internets.

You will get lynched if you call an exhaust brake a Jake Brake in the wrong circles, cab lizards take issue with that.