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'99 4Runner Build: Clara

sixstringsteve

sixstringsteve

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4biker said:
890's are a little taller than 906's with a lower spring rate. It'll probably be a great choice unless you really load down with a rear bumper, cargo platform, etc. Check this build thread out - scroll down to post #5 to see his experience with 890's: http://www.yotatech.com/f79/gerdos-profile-85724/ He did his research well.
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cool, thanks for the info. I don't mind swapping out coils in the future when my rig grows up. As much as I'd like a nice CBI rear bumper with swing-out tire carrier, that won't be possible 'till my tacoma sells. For now, I'm sure the stock spare will be fine in its location. I may just build my own rear bumper. We'll see. I don't plan on a platform, and I plan on trying to do lightweight car camping, so i shouldn't ever have more than 300 lbs back there.
 
Cascadia

Cascadia

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My tundra came with 16" wheels so you shouldn't have a problem clearing if you end up with 16's either. What kit are you using for your tundra brake upgrade? I wouldn't mind having some more stopping power in my 4runner.
 
sixstringsteve

sixstringsteve

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hm... lift is going to happen later this week. I'm trying to decide if I want to go to 881's up front and 890s out back. Eventually I'll have a front bumper/winch up there, but not for a while.
 
4biker

4biker

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Honestly if you're seriously planning a bumper the 881s will be better but they will be stiffer than your 880's. I ran them fine for 3 years with no heavy bumper though, so they're very liveable. 881/890 is the combo I should have run initially fit the best height and comfort. Many people running 285 tires add a spacer on the 881's as well.
 
sixstringsteve

sixstringsteve

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I did some shopping today: Doug's Auto: Safety & IM, Low range: switches, fuse box, slider gusset kit, Cruiser Outfitters: Snatch strap, quick tire deflators, and rear springs/shocks. Kurt recommended 906s based on my plans for the rig. I'll be installing the lift tonight.
 
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bryson

bryson

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sixstringsteve said:
...A lot of guys say "I fit X tire with no cutting." Well, that's because they haven't taken it offroad yet and tried to stuff the tire. They don't rub in the parking lot, and they forget that when people crawl, their tires are stuffed up against the bump stop.

On these rigs, a lift won't create any more clearance when the shock is totally bottomed out. When your suspension is completely compressed (bottoming out on the bump stop), the tire is in the same place, regardless of the lift. On these vehicles, unless you add a body lift (yuck!), you won't gain any clearance at full bump. You will gain a bit more clearance at ride height. Not sure if that makes sense. With a lift, you're basically pre-drooping the spring. You trade downtravel for uptravel.

One of the quickest ways to break axles is to have a tire that binds/rubs in the fenders.
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Don't most lifts usually include/require some sort of bumpstop extension specifically for this issue? I know all the full "kits" that I have ever installed have some sort of provision to either extend or replace the bumpstop. If you are piecing a kit together, that is a different story, but I'd still extend the 'stops.

Also, I'd think the higher spring rate of the new springs would prevent the tire from stuffing into the fender as far as stock - unless you add enough weight to compensate for the higher spring rate.
 
sixstringsteve

sixstringsteve

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bryson said:
Don't most lifts usually include/require some sort of bumpstop extension specifically for this issue? I know all the full "kits" that I have ever installed have some sort of provision to either extend or replace the bumpstop. If you are piecing a kit together, that is a different story, but I'd still extend the 'stops.
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I could put a bigger bump stop and limit up travel if I wanted, but I don't want to limit articulation. On the ifs lifts, the stiffer spring just pushes the a arms further down.

bryson said:
Also, I'd think the higher spring rate of the new springs would prevent the tire from stuffing into the fender as far as stock - unless you add enough weight to compensate for the higher spring rate.
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Bingo. When you're rock crawling, you'll stuff it to the max every once in a while.
 
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