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Addicted Offroad's Project "Cracka'"

AddictedOffroad

AddictedOffroad

The Yota Specialists
Location
Windsor, CO
Threw a set of the RuffStuff HIDs on the bumper to get some pics.

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sixstringsteve

sixstringsteve

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UT
Very cool. I think you've mastered linking a toyota. If you could market your install as a DIY kit, I know more than a few people who would be very interested (myself included). I don't know link suspension well enough to design it well out of the box (even TG apparently can't do that either), but I know you'll keep it low and all the angles right.
 
AddictedOffroad

AddictedOffroad

The Yota Specialists
Location
Windsor, CO
sixstringsteve said:
Very cool. I think you do links best on a toyota. If you could market your install as a DIY kit, I know more than a few people who would be very interested (myself included).
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Its almost impossible to do that for the masses though without compromising the geometry. Mainly because when I build a rig I usually do the whole thing at once. Meaning, I will design and build the suspension based on dual cases being in the rig already or at the same time. Most guys aren't going to do that though as they try to build it in stages. However, the lower links need to be triangulated onto a crossmember to get the geometry where I want/like it. And, since the crossmember will need to be removable to get access to pulling the tranny/tcases you need them installed either before we build it or during the build. So, I would have to have two kits.

And, as you know, the stock Tcase isn't enough by itself for low range. So, duals or a single 4.7 Lefty is needed. Try to tell that to a guy on a budget and it doesn't go too well.

In the case of my old 2000 4runner, you literally needed to drop the front suspension out of the rig to be able to get the tranny/Tcases out.

I have been talking with Brian at 4wheelunderground about doing the link brackets for the double cab. His kit may lead to good geometry without having to remove a crossmember, but he is still designing it for a driver drop at this point. But, his link system welds to the inside of the frame rails without a crossmember up front. I just need to plug in the numbers based on my truck and see if I like what I see. If I do, when I build it, then I will likely push people to his kit.

IMHO, there is no "universal kit" that will accomplish the perfect geometry for anyone without doing it all at once.
 
AddictedOffroad

AddictedOffroad

The Yota Specialists
Location
Windsor, CO
sixstringsteve said:
Good to know, thanks for explaining that. I was afraid that was going to be the answer.
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FWIW, the leaf kit that TG offers is a good kit. With some tweaks to it like we did in the Frenchy build, its a great kit. The ride quality and driveability of the truck are excellent. Its very predictable and IMHO it a great compromise for the guy that wants to build it in stages.

The truck is back in my shop for dual cases, sliders, and some other stuff again right now. I drove it to the car wash to get all the mag-chloride off the undercarriage so we could work on it, and after three months, its driving excellent still. It settled down to a 23" frame height on 33s. So, figure 25" height on 37s. That is more than acceptable IMO for the frame height.

I have seriously considered doing that kit on the white truck. But, since its a magazine build, we want to showcase some different ideas during the build. That is what is leading us towards the link suspension side of things.

I am going to get in touch with Dan at Ruff Stuff in regards to heims, and shock tower stuff. I have already talked to Brian at Diamond axle as well. We'll see where it all leads us. Right now, I just need to get through the holidays and KOH before I really get more serious about it.
 
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