Anyone know about IH Scouts?

Paudrhound

Registered User
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Utah
I cut my teeth on a binder. Great 4x4, was hard as heck to get parts for them. You can search for parts on the web and find plenty of them now. Usually have Dana's under them. As for lifts and the such they are out there but pretty $$$$. I enjoyed mine. Rust is the number one thing to look for when buying. The hatch doors are notorious for falling out driving down the road. I checked out the link and the price would be a hinder to me knowing how much the parts are for them.

Jay5.9L said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2442908790&category=31846

Do these make a decent wheeler Looks like it has possibility but how hard is it to find parts (lifts, lockers, etc)?
 

harkinoff

something to do...
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Sandy
Jay5.9L said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2442908790&category=31846

Do these make a decent wheeler Looks like it has possibility but how hard is it to find parts (lifts, lockers, etc)?


locker, lifts are a common in most shops, not priced any different, that I am aware of.. Rust is the big issue to look at, front body mounts by the front of the doors are a big one, as are the two in the very back in front of the rear bumper.. drivetrains are beafy and heavy, I don't know anything about. I chopped up mine and went chevy.. troutbum here on this forem has a lot of knowledge about International's ,another good place to look for questions is the http://www.binderbulletin.org/
I am glad I built a scout, they are a very capable rigs, that are easy to work on..
 

Brad J

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Location
Woods Cross, UT
I bought my 70 Scout 800A almost 5 years ago and have been hooked ever since. Lifting options are usually 2" or 4" spring lift for around $500 (not much more than anything else). Another alternative is to go SOA. I've got a GM Dana 44 front and a IH Dana 60 rear but need to pay off some bills before I start the SOA. That 78 SII has Dana 44's front and rear w/ disc's up front. Lockers are pretty much standard for any of the Dana 44 axles found in all trucks. Parts are pretty easy to get as long as you don't go to Checker because they have no clue what a Scout is and think it was made by Ford or Dodge. The starters and alternators are standard chevy parts = found everywhere. Napa and Auto Zone have (or can order) any part you could need for a Scout. They are excellent 4 wheelers right out of the box. The 345 is the same engine in the Old School Buses and Dump trucks. Low revving engines with tons of torque. If you've got the $ that Scout looks and sounds like a pretty good deal. Every so often you can get ones for free but those take a lot to get them road worthy. I took mine to Moab in April and it did pretty good for still being stock (but has a 2" body lift). I am running 33x12.5r15 MTRs and love them. The only problem that I had was off camber problems w/ the carb but we got it running much better w/ a vent baffle kit. Mine has not left me stranded yet (knock on wood). Just beware that if you get an IH you will probably end up with a ton. Let me know if you have any more questions.

Thanks, Brad J.
70 Scout 800A w/ 304, T-18, Dana 20, Dana 30 front, Dana 44 rear w/ power lock (from factory)
71 1110 T-all w/ 345, auto, NP205, and Dana 44s
74 200 4x4 ex fire truck w/ 345, T-19, NP205, D44 front and D60 rear
and my new 63 Travelette (crew cab) w/ 304, T-98 and an RA-6 w/ power lock rear end
 

Jay5.9L

...I just filled the cup.
Location
Riverton
Brad J said:
I bought my 70 Scout 800A almost 5 years ago and have been hooked ever since. Lifting options are usually 2" or 4" spring lift for around $500 (not much more than anything else). Another alternative is to go SOA. I've got a GM Dana 44 front and a IH Dana 60 rear but need to pay off some bills before I start the SOA. That 78 SII has Dana 44's front and rear w/ disc's up front. Lockers are pretty much standard for any of the Dana 44 axles found in all trucks. Parts are pretty easy to get as long as you don't go to Checker because they have no clue what a Scout is and think it was made by Ford or Dodge. The starters and alternators are standard chevy parts = found everywhere. Napa and Auto Zone have (or can order) any part you could need for a Scout. They are excellent 4 wheelers right out of the box. The 345 is the same engine in the Old School Buses and Dump trucks. Low revving engines with tons of torque. If you've got the $ that Scout looks and sounds like a pretty good deal. Every so often you can get ones for free but those take a lot to get them road worthy. I took mine to Moab in April and it did pretty good for still being stock (but has a 2" body lift). I am running 33x12.5r15 MTRs and love them. The only problem that I had was off camber problems w/ the carb but we got it running much better w/ a vent baffle kit. Mine has not left me stranded yet (knock on wood). Just beware that if you get an IH you will probably end up with a ton. Let me know if you have any more questions.

Thanks, Brad J.
70 Scout 800A w/ 304, T-18, Dana 20, Dana 30 front, Dana 44 rear w/ power lock (from factory)
71 1110 T-all w/ 345, auto, NP205, and Dana 44s
74 200 4x4 ex fire truck w/ 345, T-19, NP205, D44 front and D60 rear
and my new 63 Travelette (crew cab) w/ 304, T-98 and an RA-6 w/ power lock rear end

Good information :) I was reading about fuel injection kits for the 345. Are there any good kits out there? This a little off the topic but how do you think the scout would be as a project vs this: (note the salvage title and the cage/bumpers)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2444022787&category=6285
 

Brad J

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Woods Cross, UT
Jay5.9L said:
Good information :) I was reading about fuel injection kits for the 345. Are there any good kits out there? This a little off the topic but how do you think the scout would be as a project vs this: (note the salvage title and the cage/bumpers)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2444022787&category=6285


I have only read a little bit about fuel injection on an IH engine and it sounds really impressive. Some guys are getting just under 20 mpg in Scouts. One of these days I may be up to it but I hear about several problems some keep having. One web site to check out.

http://www.justinternationals.org/international-fuel-injection.htm

I would personally choose the scout over the Jeep. There is millions of Jeeps that all pretty much look like that one but very few Scouts. It seems like no two scouts look alike. Its like the old saying "I'd rather push a Ford than drive a Chevy".

HTH
-Brad J.
 
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RWH

Let's Roll For Justice
I've got a 75 scout XLC that's my 2nd international and am planning on buying another scout. My 75 has a 392 with a 345 2bbl intake and 850CFM holley which came stock on my old 345. wide ratio t19 and 44's. Their a Great Rig Tuff as nails and easy to fix international designed them for farm errands and so that any farmer could fix em wether it be a flat tire or a new crank shaft. I'd take a roadworthy scout over ANY YJ.
 

troutbum

cubi-kill
Location
SLC
Kind late but

heavy...that is my only complaint. If you are looking for a bolt on kinda rig I would pass. no real FI to speak off for the SV engine, you can adapt a GM TBI and CPU, if you are dead set. THe 345 will do 200,000 to 400,000 miles between rebuilds if you are good to it. 727/D20/D44's prolly 3.73:1.

I love scouts, but at that price I would pass. If it is a dedicated trail rig, look for the 200-500 dollar model. If you keep your eyes open youcan score a much better deal.

Utah seems to have a disproportional number of over priced scouts.
 

Jay5.9L

...I just filled the cup.
Location
Riverton
troutbum said:
Kind late but

heavy...that is my only complaint. If you are looking for a bolt on kinda rig I would pass. no real FI to speak off for the SV engine, you can adapt a GM TBI and CPU, if you are dead set. THe 345 will do 200,000 to 400,000 miles between rebuilds if you are good to it. 727/D20/D44's prolly 3.73:1.

I love scouts, but at that price I would pass. If it is a dedicated trail rig, look for the 200-500 dollar model. If you keep your eyes open youcan score a much better deal.

Utah seems to have a disproportional number of over priced scouts.


I took it for a test drive and its in very good condition. There are two little holes in the rear floor right in front (and tothe sides) of the rear seat. The center counsil is broken and the tranny cover is broken as well. Other than that it ran smooth, lights worked, breaks were decent, engine power was ok, and there was minimal rust. It was quieter at idle than my old XJ :)

How much should I offer him if I was going for it? Do they make cut out flares to open the wheel wells up? (like they offer for the early bronco/ jeeps)
 

troutbum

cubi-kill
Location
SLC
as for fender cut outs, you'll find that the aftermarket for IH is practically nonexistant. That being said you can use jeep or bronco flares. Be aware that the rear fenders are difficult to cut without cutting the inner fenderwells.
innerfendercut1.jpg


I would pay at most 1500 for an excellent condition/no rust Scout II, maybe a little more for a 1980. Shop around, I looked at a 67 Scout in SLC for 50 bucks. If you see one parked for awhile, stop and ask if they are interested in selling I have seen two go like that.
 
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