TheJeepGuy
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Best 4x4 / daily driver! Opinions wanted
- Thread starter v-stone
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The fact that you took issue with Kurt's "AKA Mr Cruiser dude" post the way you did. To enjoy a Toyota doesn't make one less patriotic for it.
Hate to say it, but if there's someone here who knows Toyota's history/lineage too well, it's going to be Kurt.
Hate to say it, but if there's someone here who knows Toyota's history/lineage too well, it's going to be Kurt.
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- Sandy, Ut
Present all the facts you want, I'm more than happy to back up any claim I've made. They are all well established facts. I'm fully aware of the Jeep's contributions to the WWII war theater and in fact would love to own an era Bantam GP. But that is a 100% moot point. Patriotism doesn't live on the name badge stuck to the side of a vehicle. What about the thousands of American workers that assemble Tacomas here in the US using majority NAFTA origin parts? What about the thousands of American troops rolling around the middle east in Toyotas, purchase by the mighty tax payer?
As I said in my post, I think a Jeep could be a great budget wheeler/dd for this gentleman. But to imply one ought to consider a modern Jeep based on the heritage that took place 60 years and 10 owners ago is a little stretched imo.
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TheJeepGuy
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I didn’t say enjoying a Toyota was less patriotic and I didn’t say anything about Toyota history. I was talking about Jeep history.
I took an issue with incorrect statements of Jeep history and clearly stated I had no problem with Toyota or people who drive them, I stated “What gets me is arrogant people thinking that Toyota is the cats meow!” and above all others!
I am sure Kurt knows far more about toyota history than I do and I am sure I know far more Jeep history than he does.
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- Sandy, Ut
Which statement was incorrect?
Very well could be and in that case please share, I know I'd love to hear it. I did a short research paper on the early years (pre-1980) Jeep for a college business class and at that time knew the situation fairly well. Though its been 5 years and many of the details are foggy, enlighten us.
Lka1988
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- Cedar Hills, UT
IMO, the best DD/weekend warrior would be any 1980's-90's Toyota truck. Hilux, Taco, Runner, Cruiser, what have you. Obviously my opinion is biased, so take it with a grain of salt. 
Gonna ignore the chat above...
Gonna ignore the chat above...
Tacoma
Et incurventur ante non
- Location
- far enough away
As a long time FSJ fanatic and new FJ40 owner, I have to say that the engineering is way cooler on the Toyotas-- the hinged grille, the way you can remove the flywheel w/ the bellhousing stll mounted, the hand crank!!, the correct use of washers on ALL the bolts, etc etc. , They're solid vehicles.
As to the history, admit its a draw and move on.
As to the question, I like GM fullsize stuff for MY uses-- they are cheap, the interchange is good, but the mileage sucks.
As to the history, admit its a draw and move on.
As to the question, I like GM fullsize stuff for MY uses-- they are cheap, the interchange is good, but the mileage sucks.
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- Sandy, Ut
Tacoma
Et incurventur ante non
- Location
- far enough away
That's pretty bitchin'!!
BCGPER
Starting Another Thread
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- Sunny Arizona
This is the first I've read this thread, because I knew where it would head.
I was right, it went from dumb to totally stupid.
The best rig is the one that will never break, gets 40 MPG. and cost you $2500 brand new. Let me know when you find it.......
I was right, it went from dumb to totally stupid.
The best rig is the one that will never break, gets 40 MPG. and cost you $2500 brand new. Let me know when you find it.......
X2 or if money allowed, a FJ cruiser.
To me it depends on a lot of factors. There is no singular best Daily Driver/Weekend Warrior vehicle for everyone.
Things that need to be considered
Budget
type of wheelin you would like to do
amount of pasenger space/cargo space needed
availability of parts (domestically and potentially internationally if overland is your thing)
fuel efficiency
reliability
etc etc etc etc
I like the Tacoma's for long distance expedition type wheelin and for a good DD.
I like the grand cherokee's for a little more difficult wheelin while still remaining streetable....at least that's what I tell myself. There are other vehicles that are similar and have advantages and disadvantages when compared to the ZJ/WJ for a more rock-crawling centric DD/WW.
Things that need to be considered
Budget
type of wheelin you would like to do
amount of pasenger space/cargo space needed
availability of parts (domestically and potentially internationally if overland is your thing)
fuel efficiency
reliability
etc etc etc etc
I like the Tacoma's for long distance expedition type wheelin and for a good DD.
I like the grand cherokee's for a little more difficult wheelin while still remaining streetable....at least that's what I tell myself. There are other vehicles that are similar and have advantages and disadvantages when compared to the ZJ/WJ for a more rock-crawling centric DD/WW.
BlackDog
one small mod at a time
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- Proudly Deported to ID
< Centurion bronco.
We have lifted Subies in this thread, why not go the other extreme.
Drawbacks: 140" wb; mpg of the 7.5; whichever one you buy if a Centurion, is one of 4,000 made ever, if a Metroplotian, or one form an onscure Limo company, even rarer.
Pluses: Dana 60 front out of the box, most times they are to be found running 4.10 gearing. A small amount of money (SKY shackle flip kit) and 37's fit; (87-91 and 38's fit out of the box, seen pictures,a nd am doing it this weekend); Seats 7/8/9, depending on Config, or 4/5/6 and a Ginormous rear area for stuff/recovery/camping/Dogs/firewood, etc.; Can be found with a Powerstroke, and now you regained mpg.. and retained copious amounts of power.
Can be found for 7500 and less, there is one right now in Cali, lifted, regeared, tweaked tuned blah blah blah, for 10k.
We have lifted Subies in this thread, why not go the other extreme.
Drawbacks: 140" wb; mpg of the 7.5; whichever one you buy if a Centurion, is one of 4,000 made ever, if a Metroplotian, or one form an onscure Limo company, even rarer.
Pluses: Dana 60 front out of the box, most times they are to be found running 4.10 gearing. A small amount of money (SKY shackle flip kit) and 37's fit; (87-91 and 38's fit out of the box, seen pictures,a nd am doing it this weekend); Seats 7/8/9, depending on Config, or 4/5/6 and a Ginormous rear area for stuff/recovery/camping/Dogs/firewood, etc.; Can be found with a Powerstroke, and now you regained mpg.. and retained copious amounts of power.
Can be found for 7500 and less, there is one right now in Cali, lifted, regeared, tweaked tuned blah blah blah, for 10k.
BlackDog
one small mod at a time
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- Proudly Deported to ID
Of if a 4dr Bronc is overkill, then I would recommend a 2 door next. Hard to beat a 5.0 and either the AOD/E40D, or the ZF 5 speed.
Quite capable, most will take 33's stock (92-96 might require bumper trim), if you locate an Eddie Bauer trim one, you have all the amenities of a Cruiser, okay MPG, and the room of a full size (interior room) Easy to SFA, or run the TTB, in fact if you like desert speed, the TTB is one of the reasons they are a dominating force in BAJA racing.
Nice 92-96's can be found in the 2500-5 grand range, and they are an exquisite ride.
Quite capable, most will take 33's stock (92-96 might require bumper trim), if you locate an Eddie Bauer trim one, you have all the amenities of a Cruiser, okay MPG, and the room of a full size (interior room) Easy to SFA, or run the TTB, in fact if you like desert speed, the TTB is one of the reasons they are a dominating force in BAJA racing.
Nice 92-96's can be found in the 2500-5 grand range, and they are an exquisite ride.
Lka1988
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- Cedar Hills, UT
Centurion Bronco PSD = Rare and awesome
I will own one someday. :daydreaming:
Now that I think about it, they are kinda like an early Excursion...
I will own one someday. :daydreaming:
Now that I think about it, they are kinda like an early Excursion...
Deweyxj
Invisible, on purpose!
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- In my own private Idaho
Deweyxj
Invisible, on purpose!
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- In my own private Idaho
ATTN: v-stone
Your search is broad & vague. If all you were looking for was a brand loyalty poll, you got it!:-\
If you are REALLY looking for the "best rig for me" you'll have to set out some critieria as to what you need & want ...IS!!
I'll be happy to give my opinion when you respond!
