Big UROC changes...

[goin4xn]

There is no need to be calling names here. I think everyone realizes that the statements in this thread are purely speculative. For all I know, you could be talking out your "bunghole" right now, I might be too, but there is no reason for name calling. If you don't agree with something, argue it, but don't be a dick.

You're correct and I apologize. At the same time it bothers me when people state their own personal opinions as FACT with no basis to back them up. jrussell has no idea (and I don't either) what Craig's financial agreements with UROC are (if any) and for him to blatantly say that it's all about money is bs. Same with Spence tossing about his opinions. He doesn't know, wasn't in on the discussions and what he is saying is a contradiction to what Craig has said both publicly and privatly to many others. At this point in time I say we give Craig his due (which he has certainly earned) and accept his reasons as fact.

 

[SAMI]

Same with Spence tossing about his opinions. He doesn't know....

an opinion is an opinion

 

[Cody]

I would say that the same ignorance is at work when one operates with the underlying assumption that name calling and lible increase ones credibility. What few points you may have thought you made were reduced to almost nothing because of your behavior.

You ask for evidence to be substative, but yet you make accusations regarding the integrity and intelligence of people without even knowing who they are or what they know?

what a clown

Cody

 

[BlackSheep]

Guys,
lots of speculation going on here. Personally, I don't think it really belongs, but I won't even think about asking you to stop it. I am asking that you keep it civil, and refrain from calling names. If you have an opinion, please post it, but please make it known the source of your information and its value. Also, if you are speculating, please note that as well.

 

[Cody]

My 'clown' statement is purely speculative and based from unsubstantiated evidence and heresay.

 

[bobdog]

I just have to say that for a guy of Goin4xns size to call a guy of Spences size "a dog sniffin ass" takes some real big balls.

 

[BlackSheep]

My 'clown' statement is purely speculative and based from unsubstantiated evidence and heresay.

 

[Greg]

Guys,
lots of speculation going on here. Personally, I don't think it really belongs, but I won't even think about asking you to stop it. I am asking that you keep it civil, and refrain from calling names. If you have an opinion, please post it, but please make it known the source of your information and its value. Also, if you are speculating, please note that as well.

For sure, thanks for keeping this an informative Thread JD.

 

[Hickey]

I really can't understand why someone would take the information in this thread as anything more than guesses, opinions, and heresay. From the beginning, it was clear, that we were asked for our FEELINGS, not what facts we have. I also beleive that everyone here has a lot of respect for Craig.

 

[bobdog]

I really can't understand why someone would take the information in this thread as anything more than guesses, opinions, and heresay. From the beginning, it was clear, that we were asked for our FEELINGS, not what facts we have. I also beleive that everyone here has a lot of respect for Craig.

Thats what I thought. I can't find one thing in the whole thread that could be considered a negative statement about the guy.

 

[spencurai]

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can I get the cliff notes for this post....jeebus dude, cut to the chase....


If you think I am dissing on craig, you got another thing coming. I hold him within the greatest of respect and admiration for what HE has done for the sport....

If you think I am dissing on the pateys.....I hold their funding for UROC in the greatest of esteem and respect.

If you think I am dissing on RCAA and the likes....go ahead...think what you will....just try to get all your thoughts into the same post in the future and quit being so verbose....cut to the chase...what crusade did you say you were on??


let me guess....loyal mepco customer?!?.....just a guess?!?

 

[Greg]

can I get the cliff notes for this assclown's posts....jeebus dude, cut to the chase....


If you think I am dissing on craig, you got another thing coming. I hold him within the greatest of respect and admiration for what HE has done for the sport....

If you think I am dissing on the pateys.....I hold their funding for UROC in the greatest of esteem and respect.

If you think I am dissing on RCAA and the likes....go ahead...think what you will....just try to get all your thoughts into the same post in the future and quit being so verbose....cut to the chase...what crusade did you say you were on??


let me guess....loyal mepco customer?!?.....just a guess?!?

Careful Spence, the name calling thing was just discussed. Keep it civil.

 

[goin4xn]

I would say that the same ignorance is at work when one operates with the underlying assumption that name calling and lible increase ones credibility. What few points you may have thought you made were reduced to almost nothing because of your behavior.

You ask for evidence to be substative, but yet you make accusations regarding the integrity and intelligence of people without even knowing who they are or what they know?

what a clown

Cody

I know who spence is and I've had "discussions" with him in other places at other times.

I have to LOL at the fact that you're criticising me for name calling and finish your post by calling me a name. Pot? Kettle? Which are you? Ironic huh?

I guess that the point I wanted to make was that people were essentially calling Craig a liar when they said his leaving UROC was for reasons other than what he's stated publically. It's no one's business.

 

[creighton]

who are you? Going4xn I'm just curious. I know who I am and who spence is and who the pateys is and who craig is but I'm just curious who you are and why you seem to know so much. Please enlighten us.

thank you.

You can PM me if you would like.

 

[Cody]

I know it's difficult to understand, but maybe, just maybe the irony was intentional. You obviously don't see the irony in your posts--criticizing someone's oppinion with your own. You admit you don't know the full story, yet you say that everyone is talking out their ass for having an oppinion that conflicts with your own? You obviously think it's appropriate to take cheap shots at people--do you have integrity? Are you one of those tough guys that only gets respect and admiration from those that are intimidated by an aggressive bravado?

I could sit here and pick apart every fallacious aspect of your posts, but you still wouldn't get it. Maybe you are a smart guy--I don't know. Maybe Craig has his own agenda--I don't know. My only claim is that your posts are not only hypocritical, contentious and condescending towards people I know and respect, but they are poorly formed and very poorly thought out which makes me wonder why anyone would listen to what you say and give it any credit.

Soo, to be taken seriously, tell us WHY you know so much so that we can see why your oppinion is so much more valid than the alternatives. If you can't then you're just another guy with very poor people skills who has an oppinion. I'm willing to bet you have some sensee, you just need a little help in the social skills department.

Cody

and just so you know--"i'm right cause I say I'm right" and "I don't know the truth, but I know what isn't the truth" are claims that are wreak of fallacy. If you choose to support a claim or discredit another person , you'll have to pull something out better than that.

 

[Brett]

let me guess....loyal mepco customer?!?.....just a guess?!?

Hey now, there's nothing wrong with Mepco////

 

[spencurai]

who are you? Going4xn I'm just curious. I know who I am and who spence is and who the pateys is and who craig is but I'm just curious who you are and why you seem to know so much. Please enlighten us.

thank you.

You can PM me if you would like.

for real....I can take a diss...but I gotta know who its coming from!!

 

[goin4xn]

who are you? Going4xn I'm just curious. I know who I am and who spence is and who the pateys is and who craig is but I'm just curious who you are and why you seem to know so much. Please enlighten us.

thank you.

You can PM me if you would like.

That's kind of the downfall on the screen names here. You know me well Creighton.

Scott Phillips

 

[spencurai]

That's kind of the downfall on the screen names here. You know me well Creighton.

Scott Phillips

ok....that explains things...

 

[goin4xn]

I know it's difficult to understand, but maybe, just maybe the irony was intentional. You obviously don't see the irony in your posts--criticizing someone's oppinion with your own. You admit you don't know the full story, yet you say that everyone is talking out their ass for having an oppinion that conflicts with your own? You obviously think it's appropriate to take cheap shots at people--do you have integrity? Are you one of those tough guys that only gets respect and admiration from those that are intimidated by an aggressive bravado?

I could sit here and pick apart every fallacious aspect of your posts, but you still wouldn't get it. Maybe you are a smart guy--I don't know. Maybe Craig has his own agenda--I don't know. My only claim is that your posts are not only hypocritical, contentious and condescending towards people I know and respect, but they are poorly formed and very poorly thought out which makes me wonder why anyone would listen to what you say and give it any credit.

Soo, to be taken seriously, tell us WHY you know so much so that we can see why your oppinion is so much more valid than the alternatives. If you can't then you're just another guy with very poor people skills who has an oppinion. I'm willing to bet you have some sensee, you just need a little help in the social skills department.

Cody

and just so you know--"i'm right cause I say I'm right" and "I don't know the truth, but I know what isn't the truth" are claims that are wreak of fallacy. If you choose to support a claim or discredit another person , you'll have to pull something out better than that.

I just identified myself to Creighton.

My name is Scott Phillips.

I am the head judge for UROC.

I have no affection for Ranch due to past first hand experiences but I am willing to see what's being worked out with the merger.

My knowledge comes from casual conversation with both Craig and Lisa and directly contradicts what Spence was saying about Craig being visibly disturbed and others suggesting that Craig has somehow made a mint on UROC and now that his ship has come in he's off to the races.

Scott