broken axle extraction ideas

lewis

Fight Till You Die
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Hairyman
My clean record of not breaking dana 44 axles has come to an end. 5 years of running them and my driving style must have changed cause I broke both front shafts, they sheared off right by the inner splines inside the carrier. The one side I was able to pull out with a 10lb capacity magnet but the other side I can't get it past the seal. Any ideas?
 

Kiel

Formerly WJ ZUK
You'll probably want to just remove the carrier, that way you can just punch it out. Then inspect the detroit or whatever and clean out the bearings etc. Nothing worst then going out and finding out you left chucks in there or your detroit was thrashed. I guess you need 60's now in moab....Jk:p
 

lewis

Fight Till You Die
Location
Hairyman
It has a lockright so still has center pin so can't punch it through. I can't remove the carrier cause the shaft is halfway in the carrier. Can't remove center pin to take out lockright because I can't take off the ring gear because the carreir won't come out.
 

I Lean

Mbryson's hairdresser
Vendor
Location
Utah
That's a tough one. How do those bodywork stud welders for dent pulling work? Any chance you could weld a rod like that to it? (I've never used one, so I don't know if there's any "reach" available to weld deep in the tube like that....)
 

Kiel

Formerly WJ ZUK
It has a lockright so still has center pin so can't punch it through. I can't remove the carrier cause the shaft is halfway in the carrier. Can't remove center pin to take out lockright because I can't take off the ring gear because the carreir won't come out.

Use that arc welding rod trick where they weld a couple sticks together then run the current through them and weld it to the broken stub
 

Kiel

Formerly WJ ZUK
That's a tough one. How do those bodywork stud welders for dent pulling work? Any chance you could weld a rod like that to it? (I've never used one, so I don't know if there's any "reach" available to weld deep in the tube like that....)

How long is the chunk broke in there. Have you actually tried to remove the carrier, mine broken int he same spot and I has able to weasel it out after slide hammering it out
 

lewis

Fight Till You Die
Location
Hairyman
How long is the chunk broke in there. Have you actually tried to remove the carrier, mine broken int he same spot and I has able to weasel it out after slide hammering it out

The chunk is only as long as the splines so about 2 1/2 inches. I tried for like 6 hours in moab trying to weasel the carrier or the piece out til I gave up. We can move it back and forth with the magnet but not quite far enough to get the carrier out. It appears I put the seal in backwards because when I pull on the chunk it folds the edges of the seal inward trapping the piece in more. The other side that broke it slide out no problem. I was thinking of taking a hole saw to the seal but don't really want to. I have access to a stick welder but have never used it so I don't know how long the rods are cause I had wondered if I could weld the stick to it and yank hard on it. It is luckily on the short side of the axle.
 

78mitsu

Registered User
just remove the pin and take out the spider gears. knock the axle out of the gear and re-assemble.
 

chicken77

throttle jockey
Don't laugh but have you thought about some J B weld if you sprayed some brake cleaner in there to get thesurface nice and clean then used the the other half and and glued them back togethere it might hold strong enough to allow you to pull the broken piece out. Just a thought.
 

Rusted

Let's Ride!
Supporting Member
Location
Sandy
just remove the pin and take out the spider gears. knock the axle out of the gear and re-assemble.


with the lockright there are not spider gears any more. I am thinking that a broken chuck of axle will be in the way of disassembling the lock right.

I was thinking that JB weld as well. Sounds like the chuck is loose, just nto getting past the seal. Or maybe pull apart or melt that seal to get it out of the way. With it gone it sounds like the magnet on a stick will work again
 

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lewis

Fight Till You Die
Location
Hairyman
with the lockright there are not spider gears any more. I am thinking that a broken chuck of axle will be in the way of disassembling the lock right.

I was thinking that JB weld as well. Sounds like the chuck is loose, just nto getting past the seal. Or maybe pull apart or melt that seal to get it out of the way. With it gone it sounds like the magnet on a stick will work again

The chunk is loose, hadn't thought of JB weld, I will try it though.
 

Rusted

Let's Ride!
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Location
Sandy
The chunk is loose, hadn't thought of JB weld, I will try it though.

Make sure you keep the jb weld clean. IE don't get too much in there and JB weld the broken piece to anything else. Maybe some quick set epoxy may be easier to work with
 

Kiel

Formerly WJ ZUK
Not sure how practical it is now, but there was an article about a guy that drilled and taped his inner axles for coarse thread screws about 2 inches into the splines in the middle. When the shaft twisted off it left the hole and course thread exposed and he had a rod with a course screw welded to it and he would thread it in and pull them out
 

gijohn40

too poor to wheel... :(
Location
Layton, Utah
Not sure how practical it is now, but there was an article about a guy that drilled and taped his inner axles for coarse thread screws about 2 inches into the splines in the middle. When the shaft twisted off it left the hole and course thread exposed and he had a rod with a course screw welded to it and he would thread it in and pull them out

This is what I was going to suggest... I did this once with my old MB when I broke the shafts off
 
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