Ford Build Thread: FrED the Ford. '98 E350 7.3 4x4 The More We Explore's Adventure Van

moab_cj5

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Couple of answers on Diesel Fuel.

Short answers, Diesel Fuel changed significantly in 2006, and yes, it will still jell when temps are cold.

Long answers:
Diesel changed from Low Sulfur Diesel (500 ppm sulfur) to Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel (15 ppm sulfur) in 2006. Most issues due to the fuel change happened in 2006-2008 as the new fuel was found to cause issues with older engines and fuel systems. The sulfur was a lubricant to the system, and by taking it out, there were some initial issues that have since been resolved with additive at the refineries and terminals. ULSD is now additized with a lubricity additive, and anti-static additive to make it stable and compatible with older systems. Some people still may over additize their fuel if they choose to be safe, but I think you will get as many opinions as you want by asking.

Diesel can still jell in the winter. It is a function of the wax inherent in the crude oil. Jelling occurs in cold temps as the wax crystals clump together and thicken the fuel to the point it won't flow through a filter (95% of the jelling issues), but can make the fuel turn solid if temps are low enough and wax content is high enough.

Most refineries in UT use waxy crude from the Uintah Basin (much higher wax content and wax compound). Unless the refinery has a de-waxing unit in their production process (3 local refineries now have them, 1 more likely installing soon), the fuel will not respond to additives and usually will be blended with #1 ULSD to get to the winter properties needed to get performance in cold temps. #1 ULSD (Kerosene, Heating Oil) has less energy in it, so you loose some performance in winter with high blends of #1 & #2.

My best advise is to buy from a good, reputable station or truck stop in the winter to get good quality fuel. There is some sub par ULSD in the market, but if you go to reputable stations, you can avoid it. Also, Don't buy a stock pile of ULSD in the summer months with the expectation of running it all winter without additive because the formula changes. Refineries don't make winter spec all year because production is reduced to get the winter specs, and winter specs are largely unnecessary in the summer.

I am happy to discuss more offline, but that is a crash course on the 2 main questions so far.
 

sixstringsteve

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Location
UT
And here are some crappy pics of the crappy suspension setup it's got right now.


Front:

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Dual steering stabilizers are always better, right?

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The rear doesn't look too bad:
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Check out that awesome tranny support.

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jeeper

I live my life 1 dumpster at a time
Location
So Jo, Ut
I think the rack gave it some character. Looks plain to me now. Some awesome bumpers will make it look sweet though!
 

sixstringsteve

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Location
UT
Thank you Moab_CJ5, that was just what I needed. Lots of good info, but simple and to the point. I really appreciate it.
 

sixstringsteve

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Location
UT
Divorced. It's a bog warner 56 series I think? I'm still learning Ford talk. Check out ujoint offroad to learn more about the conversions. They have the best kit around, and they list all the details (which axle, tcase, etc. to use) on their page.
 
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Bart

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Location
Arm Utah
+1 for Howe's additive. Kept mine running in -25*F in Colorado.

I just remembered something else on the PSD. There is a coolant additive to prevent the pitting of the sleeves. DCA if I remember correctly. You use test strips and add this stuff to keep it from eating away.

I was going to mention this if no one else did. Very important to the engine life.
 

sixstringsteve

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Location
UT
The mechanic is done with the van. A/C should be working, oil leak fixed (it was the dipstick tube), I still have a small leak at the rear main seal (yuck), and he added something to the tranny fluid to help with towing, and he added the anti-cavitation stuff to the coolant. He also removed the cat, which will help keep my tranny cooler. We're off to the tetons for some kayaking and hiking this weekend. I sure hope that A/C is cold...

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Doug's Auto in Orem is incredible.
 

ID Bronco

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Location
Idaho Falls, ID
The mechanic is done with the van. A/C should be working, oil leak fixed (it was the dipstick tube), I still have a small leak at the rear main seal (yuck), and he added something to the tranny fluid to help with towing, and he added the anti-cavitation stuff to the coolant. He also removed the cat, which will help keep my tranny cooler. We're off to the tetons for some kayaking and hiking this weekend. I sure hope that A/C is cold...

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Doug's Auto in Orem is incredible.

If you need help with anything or get in a bind I'm in Idaho Falls - hit me up if you have trouble or want a dinner.
 

AddictedOffroad

The Yota Specialists
Location
Windsor, CO
In my 7.3L I run a quart of two stroke oil in every fuel tank to help with the lubrication. I hear an audible difference in how it idles if I don't run it.

It starts easier and idles much smoother.
 

sixstringsteve

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Location
UT
I just got back from a great trip to the Tetons. I got 18mpg on the way back, and the A/C blows ice cold. This van isn't very fun to drive, but it's the perfect rig for our needs right now, and it's incredible how much stuff we can fit inside. I got home and hopped in the 4runner and it was sad how much better the 4runner drives (no big surprise there).

We're really enjoying the van.
 

BlueWolfFab

Running Behind
Location
Eagle Mountain
I got about 15-16 mpg with my 7.3 and 38's, loved that truck. Only issue I had is glowplugs would need replaced about every 6 months. Wouldn't start without them, but it had 315k+ miles.
 

glockman

I hate Jeep trucks
Location
Pleasant Grove
In my 7.3L I run a quart of two stroke oil in every fuel tank to help with the lubrication. I hear an audible difference in how it idles if I don't run it.

It starts easier and idles much smoother.


This. ^^^^
I use walmart supertech and add about a pint every 25 gallons. There is some information out there about the benefits. The post I read, the guy sent fuel samples to a lab with various additives and one with supertech. The Supertech beat diesel service and the Ford brand hands down for lubricity.

My truck idles down so much faster in the winter when I am running the 2T oil. I also see about a .5mpg improvement. Not much I know but it helps me feel better about the cost.
 
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